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evolving81



Joined: 04 May 2009
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Location: Tampa

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Saving Money Reply with quote

I know this topic has been brought up plenty of times before but I am not looking for one specific area so I am posting in this section.

Basically, here's my situation:

1. 29 year old male, native speaker of English, U.S. citizen.
2. Completing an M.A. in Applied Linguistics in August, minimal teaching experience (taught for a semester through a paid internship; part of my M.A. program).
3. Have student loans to pay (from undergraduate & graduate degrees).
4. Would prefer teaching adults in a university setting (but willing to consider teaching high school/middle school for the right price...I feel greedy writing that!).

So my question is this: Were you able to save/make loan payments while working abroad? I know it's possible, just depends on the job location/country/school. If so, where would you recommend?

I've considered China since they have so many university positions that I qualify for but the pay is lower. South Korea has lots of private schools, pay is higher but they are mostly teaching kids. Middle East has lots of money but they want very experienced teachers. Oh, and I was already rejected from Westgate, but I thought that would be a pretty good gig.

Thanks in advance for your opinions... Smile
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Marconi



Joined: 12 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I had a very similar question, except my circumstances are a little different:

1. 39 year old male (look to be somewhere between 27 and 32), native speaker of English, U.S. citizen

2. Bachelors degree, elementary teaching credential (don't have a full master's degree), have worked as a teacher's aid and a substitute teacher for a bunch of years, but not doing esl

3. Pretty much willing to teach any level, but was looking for something reliable where I'm unlikely to be let go unexpectedly

4. I don't want to travel to another country without something lined up first - I don't like the idea of just showing up in a foreign country and looking for work without knowing for sure what will happen

5. Want to try and save some money

It looks like Japan is out because the competition is too stiff. Taiwan and Korea might also be too competitive, I'm not sure. Like the other poster said, it looks like the Middle East is great for saving some money, but you need to have prior experience and a masters degree in ESL. Any suggestions you've got would be great.
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Sadebugo



Joined: 10 May 2003
Posts: 524

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Saving Money Reply with quote

evolving81 wrote:
I know this topic has been brought up plenty of times before but I am not looking for one specific area so I am posting in this section.

Basically, here's my situation:

1. 29 year old male, native speaker of English, U.S. citizen.
2. Completing an M.A. in Applied Linguistics in August, minimal teaching experience (taught for a semester through a paid internship; part of my M.A. program).
3. Have student loans to pay (from undergraduate & graduate degrees).
4. Would prefer teaching adults in a university setting (but willing to consider teaching high school/middle school for the right price...I feel greedy writing that!).

So my question is this: Were you able to save/make loan payments while working abroad? I know it's possible, just depends on the job location/country/school. If so, where would you recommend?

I've considered China since they have so many university positions that I qualify for but the pay is lower. South Korea has lots of private schools, pay is higher but they are mostly teaching kids. Middle East has lots of money but they want very experienced teachers. Oh, and I was already rejected from Westgate, but I thought that would be a pretty good gig.

Thanks in advance for your opinions... Smile


For money, Korea, Japan, or Taiwan with a few years there (and your MA) making it more likely you can transition to the Middle East. That's what I did.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Saving Money Reply with quote

evolving81 wrote:
4. Would prefer teaching adults in a university setting (but willing to consider teaching high school/middle school for the right price...I feel greedy writing that!).
Why greedy? Teaching HS/JHS is not all that high-paying a job.

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I was already rejected from Westgate, but I thought that would be a pretty good gig.
In terms of what?
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evolving81



Joined: 04 May 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the pay with Westgate seemed decent although I know there was a lot of debate about the apartment situation. I just rather liked that it was for a semester... Either way, I'm not doing Westgate so it's kind of irrelevant now.

And it does seem, at least in the ads I've seen for China, that primary school pays better than universities.

I'm still looking though. I may have to "suck it up" and teach hagwon kids just for the experience I suppose.
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Marconi



Joined: 12 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Saving Money Reply with quote

Sadebugo wrote:
For money, Korea, Japan, or Taiwan with a few years there (and your MA) making it more likely you can transition to the Middle East. That's what I did.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/


Did you have to have a master's to teach in the Middle East?
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Sadebugo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Saving Money Reply with quote

Marconi wrote:
Sadebugo wrote:
For money, Korea, Japan, or Taiwan with a few years there (and your MA) making it more likely you can transition to the Middle East. That's what I did.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/


Did you have to have a master's to teach in the Middle East?


I had an MA in an unrelated field but got my MATEFL (via distance) while in Saudi.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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Marconi



Joined: 12 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: Saving Money Reply with quote

Sadebugo wrote:


I had an MA in an unrelated field but got my MATEFL (via distance) while in Saudi.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/


So you traveled to Saudi Arabia and got a job there and then got a MATELF? That makes it sound like you don't necessarily need a master's to teach English in Saudi Arabia because you were able to get a job without one. Or maybe you meant that you had a different type of job in Saudi and then got the MATELF.
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evolving81 wrote:


I'm still looking though. I may have to "suck it up" and teach hagwon kids just for the experience I suppose.


Teaching kids in a language school might not help you get into good university positions--they will look for other university/academic teaching experience.

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naturegirl321



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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a budget, stick to it, and you can save money.
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dave3br



Joined: 02 May 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Marconi

Hey don't be too quick to judge the competition. Let the employers decide if you qualify. Apply and see what happens. All you need is for one to say yes.
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