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tommchone



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Contract run-around Reply with quote

I was negotiating with a recruiter and a school about a position, but the contract had several points that I didn't like. I went with the recruiter to talk to the school administrators and try to straighten out some of the ugly things. I didn't want to pay for the resident permit; that was my primary concern. The school told me that the cost for the permit should be my responsibility because I had to have the resident permit to be hired. I told them (somewhat indignantly) that that was NOT the case, that I had to be hired to get a resident permit. Finally, the recruiter said that she would pay the resident permit, all the time telling me that she was losing all of her commission by doing that (yeah, right). The school then changed the contract to reflect this, in effect saying that I would not be paying for the resident permit. I signed the contract, but the school official who would be signing was not available. So I made arrangements to return the following week for a copy of the contract with their signature. In the meantime, I heard from the FAO at the school that the contract I had signed was invalid, but their "legal department" had rewritten the contract with the new stipulations. I agreed to meet them again and sign the new contract. When I arrived, the FAO told me that the new contract was not ready, but that he would let me know when I could come back. I haven't heard from him for almost two weeks. I'm disgusted. Any thoughts?
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, find a new position.

The run-a-round starts now and won't finish until you do.

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smutbagdisco



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are getting bad vibes now, you probably won't enjoy your time there.

Start fresh and source another gig.
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The Ever-changing Cleric



Joined: 19 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom, obviously you're not too high on their priority list. Start looking for new work now is probably a good idea. If the first school eventually wakes up and gives you what you need, then fine. But if not, at least you'll be working on a Plan B.
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As with most relationships, and particularly with schools, trouble going in gets amplified with time.

It is a school responsibility to pay for the medical, visa, etc. If they are shirking the mandatory minimums, you can just imagine how collecting your wages will go.

Walk away.
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Big Poppa Pump



Joined: 28 May 2010
Posts: 167

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Contract run-around Reply with quote

tommchone wrote:
I was negotiating with a recruiter and a school about a position, but the contract had several points that I didn't like. I went with the recruiter to talk to the school administrators and try to straighten out some of the ugly things. I didn't want to pay for the resident permit; that was my primary concern. The school told me that the cost for the permit should be my responsibility because I had to have the resident permit to be hired. I told them (somewhat indignantly) that that was NOT the case, that I had to be hired to get a resident permit. Finally, the recruiter said that she would pay the resident permit, all the time telling me that she was losing all of her commission by doing that (yeah, right). The school then changed the contract to reflect this, in effect saying that I would not be paying for the resident permit. I signed the contract, but the school official who would be signing was not available. So I made arrangements to return the following week for a copy of the contract with their signature. In the meantime, I heard from the FAO at the school that the contract I had signed was invalid, but their "legal department" had rewritten the contract with the new stipulations. I agreed to meet them again and sign the new contract. When I arrived, the FAO told me that the new contract was not ready, but that he would let me know when I could come back. I haven't heard from him for almost two weeks. I'm disgusted. Any thoughts?


Do not pay for your resident permit. Give this place a pass.
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hot_water_hillbilly



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass on an otherwise good job for the amount of 400 RMB?

Touchy
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hot_water_hillbilly wrote:
Pass on an otherwise good job for the amount of 400 RMB?

Touchy


There's the rub. The likelihood of this being an "otherwise good job" diminishes rapidly when the school seeks to shirk it's minimum requirements at the onset of the relationship.

Giving this place a pass would be more prudent than touchy in my view.

But, others may have different ideas.
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SnoopBot



Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hot_water_hillbilly wrote:
Pass on an otherwise good job for the amount of 400 RMB?

Touchy


If they require you to pay the 400-RMB fee, what else will you need to pay for?

Don't fall for high salary offers, often the salary they claim is never what you end up with.

Alarm bells going off here..
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