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Luxe



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Residence permit denied? Reply with quote

Has anyone ever had their residence permit denied? On what grounds would they be denied? I'll be arriving next summer, and I plan to apply for one. I would hate to get over there and have it denied, though, for any reason. Sad
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bulgogiboy



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there something on your mind? A criminal conviction? There's no check for that, at least not for people from the UK.

Residence permits are really easy to get, I never knew anyone from among my co-workers who was refused one, and they were a mix of American, Canadian, British, even Indian. You just pay your money, fill in a form, and hey presto, you get it.

Work permits are a different story, and can take quite a few months to process, hence the reason why most people work illegally at least for a few months, if not permanently. Laughing
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Luxe



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulgogiboy wrote:
Is there something on your mind? A criminal conviction? There's no check for that, at least not for people from the UK.


Not at all, I just know getting a visa to some countries, mainly EU countries, can be exceptionally difficult, so I didn't know if the reason so many people didn't get residence permits in Turkey was because of the cost or because they were routinely denied.


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Residence permits are really easy to get, I never knew anyone from among my co-workers who was refused one, and they were a mix of American, Canadian, British, even Indian. You just pay your money, fill in a form, and hey presto, you get it.


That's great to know, thank you!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think perhaps you were confusing residence and work permits before?

Almost anyone can get a residence permit, and it isn't tied to a job(like it is in Korea for example). The work 'permit' is just an extra stamp that you get put into your blue residence permit book, after filling out the paperwork, paying the fee, and waiting 3-4 months.

However, if you don't have some relevant qualifications (E.g. BA + TEFL cert or Degree in English/TESOL/etc) then it will be hard to get that work permit stamp for ESL teaching. Language schools seem to be required to have staff with BA + TEFL cert but uni staff are able to get away with a relevant degree on its own. Then you have other, more unique places like cultural associations in Ankara(Turco-British, Turco-American,etc) which have greater leeway with qualifications as well.

Alternatively, keep your head down and work illegally like so many other foreign ESL teachers in Turkey!

Good luck!
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Luxe



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulgogiboy wrote:
I think perhaps you were confusing residence and work permits before?

Almost anyone can get a residence permit, and it isn't tied to a job(like it is in Korea for example). The work 'permit' is just an extra stamp that you get put into your blue residence permit book, after filling out the paperwork, paying the fee, and waiting 3-4 months.

However, if you don't have some relevant qualifications (E.g. BA + TEFL cert or Degree in English/TESOL/etc) then it will be hard to get that work permit stamp for ESL teaching. Language schools seem to be required to have staff with BA + TEFL cert but uni staff are able to get away with a relevant degree on its own. Then you have other, more unique places like cultural associations in Ankara(Turco-British, Turco-American,etc) which have greater leeway with qualifications as well.

Alternatively, keep your head down and work illegally like so many other foreign ESL teachers in Turkey!

Good luck!


Great info, thank you! Any idea why it would take three months for a simple stamp if all of your papers are in order?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any idea why it would take three months for a simple stamp if all of your papers are in order?


As many of my students used to say to me: "This is Turkey, my friend". Laughing
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