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PierogiMonster



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Ibri College Reply with quote

So I shall start my first year in the Gulf in September, at Ibri College.

From what I call see, Ibri's going to be pretty quiet - OK.

But what about the college? There's a recent thread calling it a 'nightmare'. Any other thoughts from current or ex-teachers? Also, anyone else bitten the bullet and heading that way in September?

Cheers
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PierogiMonster



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... tumbleweed blows lazily across the hot, deserted streets of Ibri ...
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No_Longer_Surprised



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ICT-ELC has a HOD who arrived in January who is not qualified for the postion and sorely lacks "people skills". Along with him, he brought in a couple of "bad hires". The kind of bad hires that sleep at their desks, don't do lesson plans, don't keep gradebooks, don't dress or groom professionally, who miss classes or are late to class, who don't know boundries, and even one who takes a dog into the local restaurants/shopping centers.

But in spite of this, there are a number of hard working instructors who "make the system work". At ICT, align yourself with this group. The students and other staff respect them. The HOD and those few bad hires are simply not important. Go, do a good job, be professional, and you will be fine. Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a look at the campus on the website 360 degree photo. There seem to be some smoke stacks around?? Is there air pollution around the campus and residential areas???

How does it all compare with the Nizwa post they are advertising?
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usa_in_gulf



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadowfax wrote:
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I took a look at the campus on the website 360 degree photo. There seem to be some smoke stacks around?? Is there air pollution around the campus and residential areas???


There are no smoke stacks in Ibri. There are no industries in Ibri. There is one "main" street---with not a lot on that "main" street--zero stoplights. Absolutely no air pollution.

Ibri is in no way, shape, or form a city. It's a very, very quiet village area-- or really a group of villages that make up Ibri proper.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shadowfax wrote:
How does it all compare with the Nizwa post they are advertising?

Just on the surface, I would certainly take Nizwa before tiny Ibri if given a choice. Also, the buzz is that there isn't much complaining out of the Nizwa branch... they seem mostly OK with it all.

VS
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usa_in_gulf



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locally--both Nizwa and Ibri "fly under the radar".

By size and population, Ibri is much larger than Nizwa. Ibri is the largest interior area town/village with about 100,00 people. It is the government seat for the interior area. Students at both colleges come from all over the interior areas. The difference is that Nizwa has a small compact "downtown" area with a Pizza Hut, Hungry Bunny, and a couple of hotels that serve "adult drinks". Ibri is much more spread out with a lot more open space, etc and it has only one hotel that has dancers and serves "adult drinks".

A thought, some instructors at one of the colleges were asked to move to Nizwa for the upcoming academic year by thier agency--they did not want to make the move--prefering Ibri to Nizwa. In the end, no one was forced to make the move.

Additonally, Ibri, in my opinion, is geographically much better. Its only 1.25 hours to Al Ain, 2.25 hours to Abu Dabi, 2.5 hours to both Dubai and Muscat.
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PierogiMonster



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all that.

I am - and shall be - one of the professionals, as opposed to the others. So it's just a question of keeping my eyes open and my head down, doing a good job and thinking of the money. (Mind you, if I HAD to be transferred to Muscat ...)
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usa_in_gulf



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion--and in the opinion of a lot of people who prefer the interior regions, Muscat is not all that!! Not even close!! Horrible, horrible traffic...high rent...not culturally rich like the interior...etc, etc, etc After one or two trips, you have seen it and done it! (Again, in my opinion.)


You never know... you may fall in love with Ibri!! Stranger things have happened!! Cool

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I kinda thought that, Muscat being the capital, it would be the obvious choice. Live and learn, as they say - which is what I intend to do.

So what aspects of 'the interior' appeal to you - apart, of course, from being away from the usual city hassles e.g. traffic? A closer conncetion to the people, perhaps? The geography? Do tell!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is always a matter of personal choice. As a female and already knowing Oman, I wouldn't really consider many other places to live... certainly not the villages of the interior... but it depends on your lifestyle. There is more anonymity in the city and expat women on their own are not such an object of unwanted attention. Laughing I considered the traffic in Muscat to be OK, but it is a relative thing depending on where you have lived before. And where you live in relation to your work. I was always very close so I never had a commute longer than 5 minutes. To me (after living in Cairo and some American urban areas), Muscat feels almost like a small town. It is just very spread out.

And because of the normal late night flight hours, I prefer the proximity of the airport. Some like Muscat because it is on the water or because of more choice for night life and cultural activities. I have found that those who choose the life in the interior villages are those who enjoy lots of outdoor activities like hiking and camping... and of course, wadi bashing.

VS
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:

And because of the normal late night flight hours, I prefer the proximity of the airport. VS

Eh? You are a planespotter? Or maybe prefer the quick flight out option.? Intrigued.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you fly in from North America, you invariably seem to arrive after midnight... often well after midnight. The idea of then driving for a few hours to get home doesn't appeal... nor does staying in a hotel.

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usa_in_gulf



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PierogiMonster wrote:

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Interesting. I kinda thought that, Muscat being the capital, it would be the obvious choice. Live and learn, as they say - which is what I intend to do.

So what aspects of 'the interior' appeal to you - apart, of course, from being away from the usual city hassles e.g. traffic? A closer conncetion to the people, perhaps? The geography? Do tell!


Simply put, if you are looking to live somewhere that is like an American small city--live in Muscat. You will have a McDonalds on every corner, a Starbucks in every building, etc... But if you are like most people that I have encountered throughout my years in the Gulf, part of the reason teachers go overseas is to experiance and live in a different culture. Laughing The interior region of Oman will certainly do that for you!

You also have to realize that Muscat is only about one million people and about half are non-Omani. Also, a very significant portion of the Omani population in Muscat are not Omani Arab but Baluch. So, in my opinion, Muscat is very similiar to a small western city with a very large foreign population. To really experiance Omani culture, to make Omani friends, to learn Arabic, to have more "adventures"--a person needs to live in the interior.

In Ibri, for example, the western expat community is only about 20 people. As I pointed out earlier, Ibri is very spread out. There are no traffic lights--and no traffic jams!! (I am originally from a very large American metro area and I have lived in the Gulf area for quite a number of years--and I have lived in every Gulf country--trust me, Muscat traffic is horrible!!) In Ibri, after one or two trips to one of the three big food stores, everyone will know you!! Laughing Most of the western expats are either single men or women. Everyone's social circle includes Omaini friends. Every gathering--which happens extremely often--most often bi-weekly--its a mixture of western and Omani people. You will be invited on an almost daily basis to eat at an Omani home. You will have food left outside your door by your Omani neighbors, etc.... Even as you drive throughout the interior areas, you will have to dogde camel, donkeys, goats, sheep, etc... One young teacher has a camel that hangs around his house!! LOL You will go to "BBQs" where you will learn to cook Omani style! You can learn Arabic!

At ICT, only 3 lecturers are leaving. One is transfering to another interior college, one is leaving to start his own business, and one has been asked to leave--or in other words--fired. Thats an extremely low turnover rate!!

Plus it needs to be said, that you can simply save more money in the interior. If you are with MOM, you are given a housing allowance. You will actually have money left over from your housing allowance. Also, because of the lack of Starbucks, cinemas, shopping malls--the average person can save quite a large portion of his salary.

The airport is 2.25 hours away. Not really a big deal!! In America, again in a large metro area, I was 1.5 hours away from the airport. A shared taxi to the airport cost you 4OR-- a private taxi cost about 15OR. Even in Ibri, taxis are available 24 hours.


Just to sum things up a bit... we were in Muscat last week. As I sat in my car outside a shop, for about 20 minutes, I watched the large groups of people walk by--not one Omani. Avoided the goats in the road driving back to Ibri to attend an Omani wedding this past weekend. Arrived in Salalah last night, writing this from a tent in the mountains with our Omani friends. My position takes me to Muscat on a bi-montly baisis. Each time, I visit McDonalds but certainly don't miss it when I am gone.
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PierogiMonster



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, thanks for your replies and for taking the time. usa_in_gulf: I love the image of you writing in a tent in the mountains! I can hardly advise you to 'get out more', can i? Wink

And, yes, VS, I'll definitely be into the walking and camping scene. So I suppose I should bring over my walking boots, stricks and backpack, right?

Yes, I am one of those people/teachers who prefers to get to know the local culture rather than live in a foreign version of Main St USA / High St UK (I'm English). In fact, I'm having regular Arabic lessons now to get as much language as I can before I arrive (inshallah).

Also good to hear about the low turnover rate at ICT (although, of course, one shouldn't only listen to the good news: I'll put it all in the mix).

One thing, usa_in_gulf, what does the acronym MOM mean? I missed that one.

And, for those times when you've just gotta get away for the weekend, is it easy enough? E.g. such places as Al Ain, Abu Dabi, Dubai and Muscat ... are there fairly cheap hotels (or hostels) to stay at for a weekend break?

Thanks again.
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