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rpayvin



Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:45 am    Post subject: ILA Vietnam Reply with quote

Hiya all,

I know this has probably already been addressed, but I would love to hear from some people who have worked/are working for ILA Vietnam. What are the working conditions like? And the hours? How much are you able to save with a moderately social lifestyle?

I'm a canadian teacher with a Uni. degree (not in english), a CELTA, and a year's teaching experience in Korea.

Cheers!
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mark_in_saigon



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: suggest you do a search Reply with quote

the board is really inactive at this time, perhaps some of the more prolific posters from before have left Dodge City. I do think you will find loads of info on ILA if you just do a search here, it has been discussed in great detail in the past.

Your question about being able to save with a moderate lifestyle could probably be addressed to people on a more general basis (not just folks who work for ILA). Your best info on life here does not always come from the narrow focus, it has to be taken where you can find it, then parsed for what is important to your specific situation. Only you know what "moderately social" means to you, so I think if I were in your situation, I might broaden my search for important information, and above all, see what it is really like here on the ground. Some folks are perfectly happy eating the cheapest food, staying in inexpensive housing, driving a cheap motorbike, seeking out others who are used to that level of lifestyle, some people are appalled at that. One man's moderately social life is another man's starvation diet. Remember that the VN average less than $200 a month wages, especially outside the cities. Yet you can find VN who live at all the spectra of the scale. Each of them, and us, will have a slightly (or greatly) different view of what an acceptable lifestyle is.
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summersnick40



Joined: 29 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

working for ILA Vietnam....

My sister went to work in Vietnam. She said the kids are very discipline, quiet and shy. They listen. She said, they're not getting enough materials as the U.S., but that's understandable. As far as going around in Vietnam, she said everyone drives around on a mini motorcycle. She said its pretty intense. She got in very easily though. She said, other agency require more experiences and require a lot of paperwork, interviews etc. Her friend who works in Vietnam had to check degree, apostille/authentication. But there are agency to help you with that such as www.apostillepros.com

I'm a canadian teacher with a Uni. degree (not in english), a CELTA, and a year's teaching experience in Korea...

I would rather go to Korea than Vietnam though or maybe Vietnam would be for you.
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beetlil



Joined: 20 Dec 2008
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Location: Hanoi

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had experience with both Korea and ILA.

First... teaching in Vietnam is very different to Korea. I liken teaching in Korea to speed dating! Here the classes are generally 2 hours long so you have time to introduce the target language, model it and do activities for students to become familiar with it. BUT i think those who say the students are more polite and keener to learn are generalising - every class is different.

I've worked with 3 different educational institutions since coming here. ILA are an institution like all the rest and they all have their good points and bad points. In a well organised ILA centre, you'll get heaps of support, great resources and meet some nice people - which is always good when you're new to a place.

With only one year post CELTA, you'll probably earn about $1300/mth - more if you got a pass B. Pay goes up after 6 mths.

Rent - anywhere from $200 - $600 depending on what you want.
motorbike - $50/mth
food & drink - anywhere from $5 - $20 a day depending on if you want Viet or western and how much you drink.

It's all relative. I know teachers at ILA and other schools who took home $5000 after their 12mth contract. I know others who blew the lot.

The bottom line is you can afford to live, travel and have fun and save if that's what is important to you.
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jojo25



Joined: 26 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When are you due to start? I'm in the middle of applying for a September start. I suggest we keep in touch!
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Zoot



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: ILA Vietnam Reply with quote

ILA Vietnam is always advertising for teaching staff. I've taught the RMIT program in China, have a B. Arts (English Lit., History & Communication Studies), B. Education, TESOL Grad. Cert.

Is this organization reputable? Do they provide housing and visas etc? Do they have several different campuses? Where is the best place to work for them? Is there choice about the likely campus?

Look forward to as much info as possible.
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csleeper



Joined: 30 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: ILA Vietnam Reply with quote

rpayvin wrote:
What are the working conditions like? And the hours? How much are you able to save with a moderately social lifestyle?
Cheers!


To answer some of your questions..
The working conditions are great. The school is clean, has air con, great resources, internet access, printer access, and photocopiers.

The hours vary for everyone but you'll be teaching at least 20 hours a week on a full time schedule. You're given a base salary every month of 1200-1500 USD. ILA has what is called a "bank of hours" which they base their overtime pay on. It's quite confusing to explain so if you're really interested in working there I suggest you ask one of the managers to explain it to you during your interview process.

I lived in Vung Tau which was a smaller less expensive town compared to Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi. I think it's safe to say I lived a lavish lifestyle (bought a motorbike, rented my own huge apartment, ate out most every lunch/dinner, travelled at least once every two months, shopped alot, and had fun at night). Aside from all this I was still able to put away quite a sizeable amount. HOWEVER your ability to save really depends on YOU. From my experience the men at my school had a bit more trouble than the women as far as that is concerned. If you know anything about Vung Tau it would explain why that is the case.
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PelemPelem



Joined: 16 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEAS is an organisation which "aims to establish and uphold the standards and provisions of English Language Training programs"; ILA is a member, which means they have, at least, the minimum requirements for accreditation with this body. I haven't worked for ILA, but have for another school on one of the accredited schools lists.

http://www.neas.org.au/international/approvedcentres.php
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Kornan DeKobb



Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PelemPelem wrote:
NEAS is an organisation which "aims to establish and uphold the standards and provisions of English Language Training programs"; ILA is a member, which means they have, at least, the minimum requirements for accreditation with this body. I haven't worked for ILA, but have for another school on one of the accredited schools lists.

http://www.neas.org.au/international/approvedcentres.php

Thanks for the link. Would that be an appropriate place for an individual trainee lodge a complaint? With Cambridge? Both?
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MattMandible



Joined: 26 May 2010
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Location: Manchester UK (from August Hanoi)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kornan DeKobb wrote:
PelemPelem wrote:
NEAS is an organisation which "aims to establish and uphold the standards and provisions of English Language Training programs"; ILA is a member, which means they have, at least, the minimum requirements for accreditation with this body. I haven't worked for ILA, but have for another school on one of the accredited schools lists.

http://www.neas.org.au/international/approvedcentres.php

Thanks for the link. Would that be an appropriate place for an individual trainee lodge a complaint? With Cambridge? Both?


The first day I started on my CELTA training (this at a school in the UK) we were given a course record book - a 'Celta 5' - which included a page about how to lodge complaints about the CELTA training at the school with Cambridge ESOL. If you're already on a CELTA course, maybe check your record book (I understand that the 'Celta 5' is ubiquitous).
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Kornan DeKobb



Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know the name of the Academic Manager who makes the hiring decisions?

Thanks in advance.
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