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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: Another tourist behaving badly... Reply with quote

I hope they take her back to her hotel to pack her bag and put her directly on the next flight back to where she came from... Rolling Eyes

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100805/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_emirates_bikini_brit
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well aren't we all glad that the nanny state put the Indian couple in prison for 3 months for EXCHANGING STEAMY TEXT MESSAGES? Thank goodness for that.

As for Bikini Lady, that sounds like a job for...SHEIKH N BAKE, MALL COP!

Meanwhile, she'll be welcome in the streets of Miami Beach (not just the beach itself). And the Emirati ladies? Let them eat cake, in France.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you should look into this as a retirement job? Cool Sort of a step up from Wal-mart greeter...

VS
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what comes from ladies going to see "Sex and the City 2." Samantha has a lot to answer for.

"However, once they hit the streets everything starts falling apart as Samantha�s purse flies through the air spilling condoms. Not to mention she is clad in shorts and a tank top because they confiscated her pills and creams upon arrival at the airport and she is getting hot flashes (clearly your body is ready for �the change,� accept it.) There are dozens of male onlookers who become infuriated with this flagrant sexual exhibition and begin to cajole and follow the girls. Samantha flips out and is giving the finger left right and center and saying she has sex (in a not so polite way), and is absolutely in a rage.
I have to say this scene was unrealistic because as sad as this truth is, had this actually happened, she would have been beaten and murdered. I�m sorry, but you do not enter a country and blatantly and loudly scream your opposition to its culture. You wouldn�t walk into a Catholic church and yell about the reasons pro-choice is important. It�s just a matter of respect for your surroundings and people. Of course there are millions of different opinions in the world and everyone is entitled to his own, but you have to have self-awareness in the situations you put yourself in."

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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen the movie; it's not on my list, though I like Jessice P. Simpson's character in the TV show. It sounds like it was simply a bit of anti-Islamic, anti-Arab sentiment thrown in. There are movies with highly critical content about every major country and culture in the world, including the US. And Kazahkstan. So what? The film industry and premium cable (Sopranos, anyone?) are part of the free flow of ideas. It might be distasteful sometimes, but that's the price we pay for an escape from the censored and politically correct.

This one was filmed in Morocco or someplace.
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Perhaps you should look into this as a retirement job? Cool Sort of a step up from Wal-mart greeter...

VS


Indeed, if steamy Bikini Ladies present themselves.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends a lot on whose ox is being gored. Muslims would probably get mad at "Sex and the City 2" while Americans might not enjoy this film too much:

"A new movie that opened on February 9, in Europe creating quite an uproar. It�s called �Valley of the Wolves: Iraq.�
During the plot of the movie, U.S. soldiers attack a wedding party in Iraq. They drag prisoners off to Abu Ghraib. The soldiers then conspire with a Jewish doctor to harvest and sell the internal organs of the Arab prisoners.
Critics are calling it one of the worst anti-American propaganda films ever yet it stars two big Hollywood actors. One of the soldiers is played by Billy Zane of �Titanic� fame, and Gary Busey of �Point Break,� �Lethal Weapon� and �The Buddy Holly Story.�

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11326182/

Apparently, the Turks love it, though.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

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John
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah, I know. Read about that one. Billy Zane must have been hard up for cash. He's seen better days. Such as when he played the Eddie Foy character in Tombstone. You had Curly Bill Brocious going "Damn, PURDIEST MAN AH EVER SAW!"

I rest my case!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sheik,

He is, indeed:

Surviving Evil (2009)
"A team of documentary film makers arrive at a remote Philippine island to shoot a survival special, but the island they have chosen is inhabited by the Aswang, a shape-shifting creature with an insatiable appetite for human flesh."

If he was lucky, he didn't survive.

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John
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, I edited, making you response null and void! What was it now--oh yes, Billy Zane, purdiest man ah ever saw, in one too many schlocky horror flicks! An ignominious decline.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You tend to find that the more "religion-besotted " a society or culture is, the higher the arrest and prison rate. It's kind of ironic, isn't it? Religion is supposed to help people, but often it ends up incarcerating and making a lot of people's lives a misery.

I tend not to blame the people breaking these petty laws - rather, one can question a society for making such laws possible to turn normal people into law breakers.

Another example recently on this site on how religion-besotted societies actually generate much prison-fodder was the Brit who is living in parks in Dubai because he can't pay his debts to a local bank. He is, in effect a prisoner in a much larger prison, the state itself. He simply cannot leave the UAE until he pays his debt. In Europe, debtors' prisons are now mercifully in the past. Charles Dickens had a lot to say about them. However, in the UAE, to be in debt evidently is still seen as a crime.


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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, well, it's even a crime to send a steamy text msg to your paramour, at least for certain ethnic or religious groups.
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ummkhadija



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear alien-resurrection,

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You tend to find that the more "religion-besotted " a society or culture is, the higher the arrest and prison rate. It's kind of ironic, isn't it? Religion is supposed to help people, but often it ends up incarcerating and making a lot of people's lives a misery.


Religion is a way of life, so people who have created the rules/laws for their country is based on what that country feels is necessary to keep their country safe. People everywhere have a problem with their own country's laws, and religion may have or may have not played a role in how that ruling was made. People's choices are the reason they end up in jail/prison (there can be exceptions--but thats a whole other topic).

The US has the highest rate of prisioners than any other country:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html

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Americans are locked up for crimes � from writing bad checks to using drugs � that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries.


So, this Brit you are talking about, if he had written a bad check for his debt, could literally be in a prison in the US, or living on the streets in the US or any other country for that matter when he or she can't pay their bills.

I understand that when moving to any new country you have new rules to follow, its up to that person to learn the rules of that country to avoid being in a prison facility or like you put it,
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a prisoner on a much larger prison,


UmmKhadija
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, please, we need intercultural lessons now? I've only lived in 10 countries worldwide for 35 years, and was married to someone for a long time from a different race and nation, so I probably need some Ummkhadija pearls of wisdom. How many foreign countries have you lived in and for how long? Furthermore, you don't know what you're talking about (in your poor English--I hope you don't actually teach it): There is NO debtor's prison in the US. If people went to jail for bad cheques, it was because of outright fraud and theft, including possibly mail fraud, with the use of cheques--not simply writing a cheque that wasn't covered. There is a difference, but it apparently went over your head.

This is a forum about teaching and working internationally. It is reasonable to discuss living conditions now and then, and joke about them.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear, SheiknBake
Quote:

Furthermore, you don't know what you're talking about (in your poor English--I hope you don't actually teach it):


Seems like I have really ruffled your feathers. Sorry, I am not up to par with your great English, and not to mention wisdom of all the countries you have lived in. Oh, and of course I am not married to someone outside my race, so I can't talk about that either.

And what I meant about the debtor and the US prison wasn't the best example for you, but some things have changed since you have been in the states:

http://www.startribune.com/local/95692619.html

Just avoid reading my poor english posts, obviously with this
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Ummkhadija pearls of wisdom
, I have nothing good to write in your greatly traveled, open-minded non-racist, and well English speaking/written eyes..

UmmKhadija,
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