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5h09un



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: editing/proofreading pay rates? Reply with quote

i've just been offered a job as an editor/proofreader and i'm going to be paid by the word. how much should i ask for? it's not for technical stuff, in case that matters.
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever edited a poorly-written Chinese document in English? I have. Not only will you proof read, but you will also be required to copy edit to make it intelligible. If it is unintelligible to begin with, you will spend untold time trying to find out what the writer meant.

Steer clear of this one.

Really.
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5h09un



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miles Smiles wrote:
Have you ever edited a poorly-written Chinese document in English? I have. Not only will you proof read, but you will also be required to copy edit to make it intelligible. If it is unintelligible to begin with, you will spend untold time trying to find out what the writer meant.

Steer clear of this one.

Really.


assuming you won't be dealing with anything unintelligible (i'm working for a chinese language school--everyone there speaks english), how much would you charge?
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5h09un wrote:

assuming you won't be dealing with anything unintelligible (i'm working for a chinese language school--everyone there speaks english), how much would you charge?



Just because they speak "English" does not mean that it will be intelligible.
If their English is so good then they would not need your services.

How much are they offering ?
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5h09un



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerwilco wrote:



Just because they speak "English" does not mean that it will be intelligible.
If their English is so good then they would not need your services.

How much are they offering ?


what i was trying to imply is that i don't expect this to be a huge headache.

they need my services because i'm a native speaker and they want their promotional materials to sound as natural as possible. they also want insight about topics that will arouse the interest of their students.

i haven't received a pay offer yet. they asked me what i wanted first. but i've never been paid per word before, so i'm not sure how much i should ask for.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This probably won't help much, but I used to charge 30 USD per hour for proofreading, one hour minimum. My flat rate was that eight pages of double-spaced text on 8 1/2 x 11 paper constituted one hour.
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Hindi2610



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: editing/proofreading pay rates? Reply with quote

5h09un wrote:
i've just been offered a job as an editor/proofreader and i'm going to be paid by the word. how much should i ask for? it's not for technical stuff, in case that matters.


Perhaps you should learn the rules of proper capitalizing and punctuating before you go asking others to pay for your skills! And another thing, prepositions don't go at the end of a sentence! I hope you'll do better where the rubber hits the road!
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we have the pot calling the kettle black. There are no punctuation errors in the quote. Capitalization is often eschewed for e-mails and online chats, it's become common and accepted. This ain't the Magna Carta.
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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: editing/proofreading pay rates? Reply with quote

Hindi2610 wrote:
5h09un wrote:
i've just been offered a job as an editor/proofreader and i'm going to be paid by the word. how much should i ask for? it's not for technical stuff, in case that matters.


Perhaps you should learn the rules of proper capitalizing and punctuating before you go asking others to pay for your skills! And another thing, prepositions don't go at the end of a sentence! I hope you'll do better where the rubber hits the road!



Hmmm, Prepositions can and do find themselves at the end of sentences Mr Hindi, they often become adverbial particles. And agree, the punctuation isnt wrong either. Congratulations though as this is the first post you have made that seems to have standard grammatical patterns, but its a shame your wrong in your suggestions.

As far as proof reading, I dont know .... but I do think it would be useful to post what you do agree, and how long the work takes. I think lots of FT's are asked to do things of this nature, and having an idea of the time needed and recompense might be a useful thing for other FT's to have in the future when receiving requests of this nature.
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Hindi2610



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
Capitalization is often eschewed for e-mails and online chats, it's become common and accepted.


Comma-splice run-ons have also gained favour? Doubt your proofreading customers will be so hunky-dory about that!
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they've all been hunky-dory thus far. You're a trip, pal.
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btt73



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: editing/proofreading pay rates? Reply with quote

Hindi2610 wrote:
And another thing, prepositions don't go at the end of a sentence!




That is something up with which I will not put!
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Hindi2610



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, Prepositions can and do find themselves at the end of sentences Mr Hindi, they often become adverbial particles.

Seems no one among the "native" speakers here know the difference between a comma and a full stop, they just keeping on writing a new sentence as a run-on of the first? Must be the new English! I'll go learn it post haste!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy walks up to another guy on the street and says "Can you tell me where the liquor store's at?" The other guy says "Do you always end your sentences with a preposition?" The first guy says "Oh, I'm sorry, can you tell me where the liquor store's at, *******?!!"
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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never done any proof reading, but it would seem that the OP will be proof reading promotional material for his school/training centre. I guess they will be looking for grammatical errors in sentence structure rather than punctuation.

I think they will be looking for errors such as these following examples.

I joined the forum since yesterday

I appreciate that already I have learned so much of useful information.

I hope that you can offer advices for my status.

I am living in Mumbai my whole life, since 35 years.

I have three children and my spouse will stay at home as a housewife role.

We'll need apartment provides.


Of course, punctuation is important, but I think these kind of errors are the things that Chinese employers and students would be far less likely to accept.
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