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Ixnae



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Mail and Cats Reply with quote

Hi All,

2 questions.

1) Does anyone have any experience with or would recommend a mail/post office box forwarding service?

2) Does anyone have any experience with or would recommend a pet relocation service (3 cats - 12, 11, and 9 lbs)?

Moving to RAK in less than a month.

The sites I've found on my own either look shady or super-expensive. I'm looking just to forward the monthly bills, and the occasional letter or two.

I've found one pet relocation service that comes highly recommended, but is expensive as well. Just was wondering if there were any options on that front.

Coming from California, so I would need US based services in both cases.

Thanks for any help,

Ix
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Mail and Cats Reply with quote

Ixnae wrote:

1) Does anyone have any experience with or would recommend a mail/post office box forwarding service?

2) Does anyone have any experience with or would recommend a pet relocation service (3 cats - 12, 11, and 9 lbs)?

As to the cat relocation, there have been some posts here if you tried the search. I don't think this will be cheap for three animals... and it may be quite dangerous at this time of the year with the extreme heat. Try to contact local vets in the UAE. (probably in Dubai)

As to mail forwarding... I'm not sure what you want. The best option would be to get your bills all internet based and also pay over the net. It is so easy to do these days. I even do this here in the US. Normally we use our employer as our address in the Gulf and I always received all my mail wherever I was. (tell you friends and family not to send packages unless it is something you really need as they can be a hassle)

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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only airline that I would trust with my pet is KLM. They are, hands down, the most animal-friendly carrier in the world. All of their long-haul cargo holds are pressurized and climate-controlled.

If your layover in A'dam is more that two hours long (and it will be), the animal is fed and walked as per company policy.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also vote for KLM - not only are they walked/watered/access to litter - they also have a vet inspection. KLM ground and air crew are great for reassuring (a) pet is OK in pet hotel and (b) pet has been loaded on board.

There are several businesses offering assistance on UAE end to clear them - however, it isn't difficult but you do need an import certificate from the UAE Dept of Agriculture - your mandoop/PRO from your employer can assist in that regard. Once they arrive, you go to the cargo area, get the UAE vet to inspect them show your papers, you're on your way.

Dubai Kennels, Animal Care Centre in Sharjah and the Abu Dhabi (British) Vet all offer assistance with paperwork and clearance (at a price).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure yer pets are chipped...

It a deal-breaker in the U.A.E. if they're not!

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Ixnae



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all!

I appreciate the advice. I will look into KLM.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Pet shipping Reply with quote

Unless something has changed in the past year since we shipped our dog, the airlines will not deal directly with you. You have to use a pet shipping cargo agent. We used Pet Air Carrier, http://www.petaircarrier.com/ who booked the dog on Lufthansa. She went from ATL to FRA, spent the night, then FRA to AUH. Be warned - the cargo people in the UAE couldn't give a flip about animals they receive. Somehow, the paperwork for our dog got ripped off her crate when they were transporting her from the plane to the customs area in the UAE, so they had her sitting in her crate, in over 100 degrees (and this was at 10 pm) on the other side of a fence from my husband for an hour while things got sorted out. My husband could hear her crying, but they would not let him go to her. He had to beg them to give her some water. They wouldn't let her out of the crate, either, until the UAE vet cleared her, which he wouldn't do until he had the paperwork. Luckily, I was still in the US. My husband called me, I called Pet Air Carrier, they called the customs area in the UAE and faxed copies of the paperwork to them, and had Lufthansa do the same. Pet Air Carrier was very professional while my husband and I were freaking out that out dog was going to die because of the stupid people in the UAE. Be sure that you've got someone stateside who can handle contingencies like this when you ship your pet.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why I always carry duplicates of all paperwork with me. I've never used a pet relocator on my 6 moves between North America and a few GCC countries - always dealt with the airline direct but admittedly, the last move was 3 years ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, things DO change or possibly since you were transporting such a 'filthy' animal ( Rolling Eyes ) the rules were different. All we had to do for our cat is make sure that his rabies was up-to-date. I called KLM, had him booked on the flght and we transported him to the airport with our luggage as we made our escape.

Really, if the routing works out for you, KLM is the only way to go. I DO remember tho, a few years ago, even KLM had some twists and turns in exportation which led to us having the building watchman feed him and do the dirty work over the summer breaks at the "college" that I laboured at...

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MrScaramanga



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as getting a mailbox you can do that at the post office. It is a lot more private than having your mail on display for all of your coworkers to see. This is especially true during the summer holidays when, typically, there is noone around to go through the mail and put it in the appropriate pigeon holes...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrScaramanga wrote:
It is a lot more private than having your mail on display for all of your coworkers to see.

Laughing Laughing Privacy? In the small towns of the Gulf? (and they are all "small" for the expats) Yes, I do recall catching people checking out the pigeon holes. Of course, nowadays the only letters one gets are usually from one's mother and/or maiden aunts. Email and Facebook has killed the letter, and one can do all of one's banking and bills online. A PO box may not be worth the cost or the trips. Not that I ever checked the cost... what is it these days MrS?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a mailbox in Al Ain until 2 years ago and the "astronomical" cost was 150 dirhams/year. I would also add that it was well worth the cost AND the trip: the PO box was literally 50 yards from my apartment and it afforded me the comfort of knowing that my bills, bank statements, birthday cards and care packages were not "lost" on campus or scrutinized by nosey coworkers.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is terribly "expensive." Laughing And nice that it was handy to your flat. When I was in AD, it would have been a longish drive to a PO box and then parking was a nightmare. Working at a large spread out employer like yours is probably a bit different from working at a place that has one building and PO box address.

I don't receive any bills by mail anymore even here in the US. The promise in the 1980's of the computer cutting paper usage has finally started to come true. Cool

I think we've covered the options for our OP.

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Ixnae



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thank you everyone for all of the answers and great content.

Actually, the type of P.O. Box / Mail forwarder I was asking about, is the one in the U.S. who would forward my mail to me in the UAE.

But thanks for the info on the UAE P.O. boxes. We will definitely be getting one of those when we arrive!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: pets air cargo Reply with quote

Hi There:
I can offer my 2 cents about which airline to NEVER use for this purpose. Etihad Airlines is by far the WORST.

I have used KLM and can vouch for them.

Mousette
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