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[goroh]

hey,
just wondering if this could be true.
My frined was to start a job at my univ in Zhengzhou. everything was fine, the guy booked a flight while the paperword hasn't been completed. Now he is told:

Hello,
I am very sorry to say that there is a problem about our cooperation.
I submitted your materials to the Foreign Expert Bureau of Henan
province the day before yesterday, but I was told that there is a new
regulation saying that we couldn't recruit foreigner whose native
language is not English as English teacher. I explained to them about
your CAE and your teaching experience but it didn't help. I talked to
some other universitise and got to know they also had the same
problem. I am very sorry about all the inconvenience and trouble.

Sincerely
****

He's got BA(not in Eng or linguistics though), everything was OK until this email. Im not a natvie as well, worked for the school for a year, and signed for one more. Renewed my permit in late June and everything was ok. Does i make any sense or they jus replace him(or whatever, and made up this crap about PSB?
cheers

[silkbomber]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhat true.

[Hindi2610]

I am eager to know if this matter is trueth or false. Please post the update hastily and inform whether it is trueth.

[xiao51]

Dear OP,

Let's try to deal with the information that we have at hand and what we know about the province-in-question.

You titled your post "PSB will not issue". Actually, from reading your post, it is the Foreign Expert Bureau in Zhengzhou that is ostensibly not issuing the Foreign Expert blue book. Without this book, as a matter of course, the application cannot even be submitted to the PSB.

First, Henan, as a rule, borders on the neanderthal. In most parts of China, FT's are issued one-year resident permits. In Henan, that rule was "amended" by local decision and FT's are only issued 5.5 month resident permits that need to be renewed every 5.5 months. More fees and revenues for the local issuing authority.

Next, there are at least 5-10 colleges and universities in Henan which are infamous for engaging in the kind of slight-of-hand that your friend experienced. Henan is NOT on the top of any FT's must-go-to-work-there list. There are many FT's in Henan who come from countries other than the Big 5 "approved" list of countries whose residence and work permits are renewed regularly. In fact, Henan is one of those places to where non-natives run when their job are threatened in the more prosperous provinces because of this very rule.

This is NOT a new rule by any means. It has been on the books since SAFEA was created and since China was opened to foreigners. In some cases, the colleges/universities have sufficient "good relations" or the "ability to have good relations" with the local FEB's to overcome this impediment. The FEB's are usually school-friendly or can be made to be "school-friendly".

It would truly help to know the name of this particular institution. If you do not wish to divulge it publicly, then perhaps you might consider sending me a PM. If it is one of the "10 notorious", then I would let you know.

I do not believe for one minute the story that the school is offering to your friend and I feel terribly sad for him or her. Perhaps the school found someone willing to work for less money, which is often the case, or perhaps the school, at the last minute, found someone from one of the "Big 5 approved" countries and then withdrew the offer from your friend. There are so many possible things that might have happened here and things work like that in China.

[Hindi2610]

Any information you may provide to regard non big-five teachers, I will appreciate very much. I am 35 years old, from India, seeking opportunities as teaching English. Please send IM the name of any school which you are having awarenss of such posibilty.

[colonel]

[Greg 09]

Very interestingly I just, in the last half-hour, received an urgent email from a certain individual in Zhengzhou (for the day) asking me for "clarification" on a specific item in my paperwork. It seems that important other individuals in a key Provincial office had questions.

My individual is very experienced in his job, and had had no qualms about that specific item while tucked safely in his University office some distance from the Capitol.

Clarification sent, am now awaiting reply.

Perhaps our infamous Province is attempting to loose the shackles of its "Neanderthal" past.

[Cairnsman]

For what it's worth:-

Up to July 2009, Guangdong Peizheng College of Huadu, Guangzhou had around 10 Filipinos among their foreign staff of approx. 70.

The college told the Filipino teachers that the Foreign Experts Bureau would no longer renew their F.E.C.s (as of July 2009).

These days, Peizheng advertises for English teachers from the U.S., U.K. Canada, Australia and New Zealand ONLY.

[xiao51]

[Greg 09]

[Cairnsman]

[xiao51]

[Greg 09]

The individual I quoted is a school official, applying for an FEC. My point was, he's having trouble in Zhengzhou that he's not had in the past, much like the OP's school.

[maotouying]

[mike w]