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canadian_joe



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Visa Slip Reply with quote

Hi There,

Sorry if this question has been covered elsewhere.

I have accepted a position teaching in Saudi Arabia. My contract begins mid September. I contacted my employer last week telling them that I had completed my medical exam and collected all other documents and was thus ready to apply for a visa. However, my employer told me that " they are still trying to contact the Saudi sponser to request a visa slip", which as you know is needed to apply for a visa. They said that the sponsor was contacted and it seemed as though the visa slip was in process and hopefully I will receieve it soon. They told me to wait until the visa slip is received before I submit my documents.

Now, considering my contract begins mid September and I have all the documents ready to apply for a Saudi visa, should not having a visa slip at this point in time concern me? Is this normal to have everything like this last minute? One of my biggest concerns is the actual processing time for my visa. So even if I received the slip this week, I am worried that the Embassy may take a while to issue me a visa.

This is my first time teaching in Saudi Arabia and I have heard that things are a little slow going there, however, I am wondering if this is a little extreme or me just being paranoid.

Any advice or suggestions you have are much appreciated!

Best


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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now, considering my contract begins mid September and I have all the documents ready to apply for a Saudi visa, should not having a visa slip at this point in time concern me? Is this normal to have everything like this last minute?


No, and yes.

In Saudi Arabia, things happen at their own pace. Which is to say, nothing happens for what seems like an eternity, and then suddenly, it's all go! Given that it's now Ramadhan, expect things to move even more slowly than usual. Anyway, since you say you've already got all your paperwork ready, once you receive that elusive visa number the processing of your visa by the embassy (whichever one it is) really shouldn't take long - 48 hours or perhaps less.

In any case, there really is nothing more you can do at this stage so just relax and let things take their course. Even if you're a few days late for the start of term, that's nothing to worry about - Saudi employers, and students, are well used to this.

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However, my employer told me that " they are still trying to contact the Saudi sponser to request a visa slip",


"Employer" and 'sponsor' are usually one and the same. Do I take it you are being hired by an agency/recruiter?

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cmp45



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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Location: KSA

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have all your duckies lined up and good to go...its out of your control for the time being until that visa slip is issued...you just have to wait...It is Ramadan now, so do not expect things to progress in a timely manner. Also just so you don't get all worked up about it... for some, it is not so uncommon to arrive late. If you are patient and can afford to wait ... it usually all works out...Inshallah!
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canadian_joe



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Cleopatra.

Yes, essentially I went through a recruitment company (however, I believe the recruitment company only hires students for a specific school and therefore my contract is between me, the company and the school in Saudi).

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Puddlesz



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you going through a 3rd party visa agency?
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canadian_joe



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think they would be considered a "third party" exactly. Rather, I believe they have entered into an agreement with a number of Saudi universities/colleges to establish ESL centres and provide teachers.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do not think they would be considered a "third party" exactly. Rather, I believe they have entered into an agreement with a number of Saudi universities/colleges to establish ESL centres and provide teachers.


Are we looking at a four letter word (!) starting with "B"?
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canadian_joe



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"they *have*" (rather) entered into an agreement. I am just not sure if this makes them a third party . . .
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Puddlesz



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canadian_joe wrote:
I do not think they would be considered a "third party" exactly. Rather, I believe they have entered into an agreement with a number of Saudi universities/colleges to establish ESL centres and provide teachers.


I think you misunderstood me. I did not mean a recruiter. I meant a visa agency based in Canada (assuming you're Canadian as your user name indicated) registered with enjaz. They help you put together and submit all your documents as well as your visa slip to the embassy once you've obtained them
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canadian_joe



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I am working with a visa representative registered with enjaz. The rep was helping me collect all my documents.

The asked me last week if I received a visa slip. I said no. I then contacted my employer and he said that he had notified the Saudi partner and the visa slip "would be coming" be he "did not know when exactly".

Is this business with the visa slip usually left between the rep and employer (or rep and Saudi partner)?

I am concerned with this matter only because I am scheduled to begin work mid-September and the starting date is thus fast approaching. The visa slip (or authorization to apply for a visa) is a critical part of the visa application process and I am wondering why this was not taken care of earlier on when I first accepted the position (about one month ago), and, if I should be skeptical at all.
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Puddlesz



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot speak on experience as this is my first time traveling to Saudi Arabia and I happen to be Canadian as well! Smile But when my employer sent me the full in-depth contract through mail, the visa slip with my visa number was attached to it along with a letter written entirely in Arabic (I assume addressed to the embassy). I am scheduled to arrive and begin work around the same time as you so I would be a little concerned and skeptical.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this business with the visa slip usually left between the rep and employer (or rep and Saudi partner)?


The only person/organisation who can apply for the visa 'slip' is your Saudi sponsor.

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I am concerned with this matter only because I am scheduled to begin work mid-September and the starting date is thus fast approaching. The visa slip (or authorization to apply for a visa) is a critical part of the visa application process and I am wondering why this was not taken care of earlier on when I first accepted the position (about one month ago), and, if I should be skeptical at all.


Saudi employers dont' neccessarily do things the way we think they 'should' do them, but in the way that suits them. Which often means at the last minute. Like we said, it doesn't sound as though you have anythint to worry about. If worst comes to worst, you might be a few days or weeks late, but sooner or later you'll get there.

In any case, there's not a thing you can do about it, and if you try to put pressure on your employer you'll only annoy everyone concerned, including yourself, without gaining anything.
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sauditeacher



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cleopatra"]
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...In any case, there's not a thing you can do about it, and if you try to put pressure on your employer you'll only annoy everyone concerned, including yourself, without gaining anything.


Thank you, Cleopatra. One wouldn't think I'd need to hear it said again (as per your words above), but I do; this KSA visa acquisition process sure takes patience & staying as calm as you can...and as much hand holding as you veterans can spare!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is Ramadan. Enough said. Well two factors -

1. KSA
2. Ramadan
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kachimama



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Somewhat relevant to this topic Reply with quote

Your professional title on the visa slip may be somewhat inconsistent with your intended role.

For instance, in my contract I am an "advanced ICT Instructor - English", and on my visa slip I am a "computer programmer" -- be advised your visa slip is in Arabic. (If and when I finally arrive I will of course be an ESL instructor.)

The visa agency suggested that this may cause a delay in my application. When I contacted my recruiter, I was informed that this is normal; math teachers and and other educators have officially come as janitors, for example. The reason behind this, I'm told, is that there's a quota on teacher visas.
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