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bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

Hi everyone,

I've got a friend who's got an interview with Aramco coming up soon, and one thing he's curious about is their 'security check'. What is this exactly?

Something that worries me is that he was convicted of drink driving (yes, very stupid I know) at the age of 17 (This was well over 10 years ago), and even though he knows for a fact that this doesnt show up on the UK police national computer (as he applied for a check himself, out of curiosity), he's worried it might show up as part of an enhanced background check.

If they ask him about previous convictions, should he just be honest? Or try to hide it? It worries me that the conviction involved alcohol, not exactly embraced by Saudi culture, so I hear...

What should he do?

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject:

Begin yer post with "I've got a friend who's got..."?

NCTBA

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

That's what I did, silly, and my friend is in need of some advice Razz

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject:

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cmp45 · Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

Thanks, I think my friend was kind of leaning towards your point of view. If they don't ask, he won't tell, US military style (and Saudi style too from what I've heard) Laughing

Does anyone know what exactly they're looking for with these security checks?

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Kornan DeKobb · Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 242

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

I suppose worst-case scenerio, if they do a check on you and find out you've lied/withheld info, is that you won't get the job?

My friend is going to keep quiet about it, unless he's asked outright, in which case he will explain his prior naughtiness away as best as possible. If they do a high-level security check they are going to find it all out anyway, so I suppose there's no sense in him worrying about it, if it can't change the outcome.

I don't know why you need that kind of clearance to simply teach English in a non-military environment but hey-ho...

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject:

I know of someone who was found lying about his criminal past by an Aramco subcontractor and was fired, sentenced to lashings, shot and beheaded.

The really scary thing was that it wasn't done in that order! Shocked

NCTBA

Markemark · Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Location: ksa

He will need a Police Clearance certificate and obviously it will show. There are 3 things that show- bearing in mind that once you are on the Police National Computer, you're in the database until your 100th birthday by convention.
What will show?
1) Any conviction, fine, or caution within the last 15 years as a live case.
2) Over 15 years, it will show as no live action, which means the conviction has been stepped down. That means it's spent, but that there is a criminal record, which is no eraseable as I say.
3) No trace. In which case you really are clean.

This guy's case means that although he's been a good boy for a long long time, his conviction is still going to show, unfortunately. What I do know is that if he were emigrating to Australia, or New Zealand, so long as he were honest about this, he would probably be ok. Now with the Gulf.... that's another story, isn't it?
See he can't really keep quiet about something that is going to show on his police clearance certificate!

Markemark · Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 82 Location: ksa

Yes, his conviction is not on the pnc because his data is held by his local force, and sometimes information isn't shared. This is especially so prior to 1998.
But...... he will have to include the data from his local force too because it's an offence to omit an address of any residence where he has lived for over 6 months on his application for the clearance certificate; thus, it will show up, regardless of the fact that he's not on the pnc.