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Internet banking (US accounts) and US credit cards in KSA
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Evan2009



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Internet banking (US accounts) and US credit cards in KSA Reply with quote

Are there problems doing internet banking (US accounts) from KSA? What about use of US credit/debit cards in KSA? Any problems? Does using a US credit or debit card raise a red flag with Big Brother in the US?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time that I had problems with credit cards either in saudi or in transit to/from it is when the computer program detects at an anomoly has occured...read: your card was used for a purchase outside the U.S....clearly an unthinkable or terrorist-related prospect, and will either deny the purchase, or let the purchase go thru and then disable the card. This neccessitates a call to the card call center (somewhere in Kerala/Manila) and all the persuasion you can muster to prove that yer NOT Bobby bin Laden.

The best move is to call the card provider, tell them where yer going and for the approximate dates (always dicey in the Gulf) of being there, and your planned ingress and egress routes. Then, INSIST that they put it into the records.

The card will still get disabled as computers can't think, but, hopefully, you won't have as difficult of a time with the Indian/Filipina on the other end of the line, who IS rumoured to be able to think...

NCTBA

P.s.- Squinting in bright sunlight raises red flags with Big Brother... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people there are using internet backing these days.

And I will repeat NCTBA's advice about informing your creditcard company that you are heading abroad and stress that they put it on your record. I had a terrible time with mine a few years back because even though I called them, they kept threatening to shut it down because of these "ferign' purchases.

At least now you can call them on Skype to try to fix it all... back when this happened to me it was those lovely $3-4.00 a minute calls.

VS
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amoyer



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have another question along these lines. Were you able to open an account with a Saudi or other bank and transfer funds to your other bank account online? Currently, I am using ING, but they don't have branches in KSA.

Are European banks a good way to go (I see there are many in Riyadh). Generally, are we paid by check or cash?
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amoyer wrote:
I have another question along these lines. Were you able to open an account with a Saudi or other bank and transfer funds to your other bank account online? Currently, I am using ING, but they don't have branches in KSA.

Are European banks a good way to go (I see there are many in Riyadh). Generally, are we paid by check or cash?


Yes you can, or at least I was able to during my previous stint in KSA, my employer set me up with the Arab National Bank which had a decent on-line banking system where I was able to transfer funds into my bank in Canada. It worked fine.

Most reputable KSA institutes deposit your salary directly into your Saudi bank account.

Sorry can't answer your question regarding European banks; may be different kettle of fish transfering money to other countries. Can only answer for transfers to Canada via ANB ... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of people there right now whose salary is deposited directly to their Saudi bank and they easily make transfers online to their Euroland banks.

You need to have an employer that provides a legal iqama to open the Saudi account.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ You should know your own country's tax laws. If you are working abroad, you have to make above a certain minimum amount for your earnings to be taxed. And that cutoff is high enough that I would say 99% of teachers pay no US taxes.

As for banking, a Saudi bank account is a must I would say. Where are you going to keep money for local spending? Under the mattress? And what if you run out before the next paycheck? Borrow from people?

(If you are going to be here on a business visa, you can't open a bank account... in that case, you have your paycheck cashed at the issuing bank, and then send the money to your US bank)
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er...I'd say change "make" to "report"... Some of us actually win at this game... Laughing

My winnings are for ME and mine, not US cuz' US won't be affording me and mine any Social Security...

NCTBA
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't tell on you, I promise Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
My winnings are for ME and mine, not US cuz' US won't be affording me and mine any Social Security...

NCTBA

Well, Simpson, no way to escape Uncle Sam justice system, your winnings and you are on the IRS radar! Laughing

The only way to escape Uncle Sam tax system is to renounce your US citizenship! But wait, it seems even if you renounce your US citizenship, Uncle Sam wants you to pay the tax for the next 10 years after renouncing your citizenship!! What a justice from Uncle Sam! Laughing
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, kitty cat, you seek to confuse our dear readers.

My distinction was between verbs involving overseas income.

Let me simplify if for you in ways that you'd understand...it wasn't the difference between:

x= my reality

versus

y= yer fantasy

NCTBA
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banking in Saudi is surprisingly modern and integrated into the global financial system. If you here on a regular basis as an employee, opening an account with a Saudi Bank is not a problem. I have always gone for the option of using the same bank as my employer, so now I am with the Riyad Bank.

If you are here working an a Business Visa, banking will be problemaic for you, since an Iqama (Residence Permit) is required to open an account.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Until you can get a Saudi bank account... Reply with quote

Chailocks wrote:
So, until you can get a Saudi bank account, and if you don't want to be to be bothered with a Saudi bank account,

How can you take your Saudi check and get it into an American account?

I'm not sure if the answers were clear for a newbie. Assuming that you are going with a more legitimate employer who provides you with the proper iqama...

The employers in the Gulf have been way ahead of US employers and even back in the late 1980's salaries were direct deposited to your local bank account. I never once received a check from an employer.

Nowadays, your salary is easily transferred to your account in your home country via the internet.

Get a local account, preferably with your employer's bank. Get an ATM card... and I would avoid local credit cards. Use your US credit card if you must, but be sure that your provider back home is aware that you are overseas.

By law, you must declare all income overseas, but since you will make much less than $90,000, you won't have to pay taxes on it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting a credit card from a local bank in KSA has a hidden trap. When the timew comes to leave, you may be required to give a lengthy period of notice before the card is cancelled. I was forced to deposit a sum up to the limit of the card before I got bank clearance. That was required by my employer before he would give me a final exit. It was a mega-hassle to get that money back after leaving KSA.

If you can, use credit cards from your country of origin or country of residence.
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