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teaching in Shanghai questions, (is a certificate required?)

 
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mcDuncan



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: teaching in Shanghai questions, (is a certificate required?) Reply with quote

Hi,
I have a couple questions about possibly teaching in Shanghai.

1) I was told that it is illegal to teach english in shanghai without a TEFL/TESOL certification and at least 1 years experience in teaching (and a university degree). Is this true? I know it is not true for in-land cities, but could easily be true for places like Shanghai, where they have a ton of foreign teachers already.
I do not have a TEFL/TESOL and I do not have 1 year of teaching experience, BUT i do have a university degree, and did teach in china already, once, for 4 weeks during a summer. Do this mean I can't teach in Shanghai? Or does it mean that I can't work at a good school, and have to work at a private and/or shady school? Does this mean I can't get a Z-Visa?

2) Has anyone previously worked teaching english in shanghai and the company you worked for was great? Please let me know who you worked for.

3) Has anyone worked for someone horrible in shanghai, let me know too please.

4) any particular shanghai-specific advice to give me?

thank you,
duncan
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maotouying



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching in Shanghai questions, (is a certificate requir Reply with quote

mcDuncan wrote:
Hi,
I have a couple questions about possibly teaching in Shanghai.

1) I was told that it is illegal to teach english in shanghai without a TEFL/TESOL certification and at least 1 years experience in teaching (and a university degree). Is this true? I know it is not true for in-land cities, but could easily be true for places like Shanghai, where they have a ton of foreign teachers already.
I do not have a TEFL/TESOL and I do not have 1 year of teaching experience, BUT i do have a university degree, and did teach in china already, once, for 4 weeks during a summer. Do this mean I can't teach in Shanghai? Or does it mean that I can't work at a good school, and have to work at a private and/or shady school? Does this mean I can't get a Z-Visa?

2) Has anyone previously worked teaching english in shanghai and the company you worked for was great? Please let me know who you worked for.

3) Has anyone worked for someone horrible in shanghai, let me know too please.

4) any particular shanghai-specific advice to give me?

thank you,
duncan


Who is the one who said this that it is illegal to work in Shanghai without a TEFL/TOSEL or even 1 year experience?

Here is a job example out of Shanghai.

They are not listing any requirement. So I would say whoever told you you this it is erroneous information.

Job: ESL Teacher Vacancy: 3
Job Subject:
Job Kind: Fulltime
Starting Date: 2010 September Total Length: 10 months
Work Location: Shanghai
Workload: 16-25 hours per week

Job Description & Qualifications
Degree Requested: Bachelor or above
Gender Requested: Not specified
Age Requirement: below 50
Citizenship Requested: American, Canadan, Britain, australian, New Zealander, Irish
Teaching Experience Expect: At least 1 year experience

Benefits
Monthly Salary(RMB): 5501-6500
Overload Pay: 50-100 Per class (RMB)
Airfare Policy: One way
Housing: No, but rent allowance provided
Food: No, but cooking utensils provided.
Insurance: Negotiable
Travel Allowance 0 (Annual bonus in RMB)
Telephone Allowance 0 (Monthly bonus in RMB)
Free Chinese Course 0 (class/week)

LOOK FOR THIS LINK

http://www.abroadchina.org/person/all.asp?page=5&key=24
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mcDuncan



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps the restriction is only for public schools?
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maotouying



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcDuncan wrote:
perhaps the restriction is only for public schools?


"What you talking about Willis"

What restrictions?
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mcDuncan



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, i went back and dug up the original email i received, from longman schools:

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Dear xxx:

You can teach in smaller cites in China, but all of the large cities governments require the experience in order to get the visa, so if you want to teach in China, just try submitting your job to some of the schools in those locations.. Tim



Tim Franta

Longman Schools Shanghai

Recruiter

17th Floor, 655 Fuzhou Rd

Shanghai, PRC 200001

Phone: +86 21 6350 3196

Fax: +86 21 6350 3096

WWW.Longmancareers.com

Quote:
Dear Pearson Longman,
I am 25 years old, a native speaker of English and citizen of Canada, have a bachelors degree in Computer Information Systems, and will be completing a TEFL certification program this summer. I fulfill all the requirements posted by you and others online for becoming an English Teacher in Shanghai, save one. Every single posting I have seen requires 1 to 2 years of experience teaching. This appears to generate a sort of catch-22 issue, in that you can not teach if you do not have 1 year of experience, but you can not get 1 year of experience if you can not teach. I am wondering how "required" this is? Is it required by the City/Province? Is there a way around this requirement? If you do not fulfill this requirement are there are positions available that allow you to get this 1 year of experience?
Thank you for your time,
xxx
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DoubleDutch



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Bachelor's degree and TEFL certificate are standard requirements. But, this being China, "it's impossible, but there is a way."
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maotouying



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoubleDutch wrote:
A Bachelor's degree and TEFL certificate are standard requirements. But, this being China, "it's impossible, but there is a way."


One or the other or both are good. But there is some FTs I know who have neither and they end up with good teaching jobs, their face is all the reference they need. But you know many schools are tweaking the requirements.
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Cubism



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: I NEED WORK!!! Reply with quote

I have a B.A. and experience. Links, advice, help. Thanks.
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