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NET questions: application, SEN, wife's nationality.

 
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chinchon



Joined: 28 Jun 2010
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Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:43 am    Post subject: NET questions: application, SEN, wife's nationality. Reply with quote

Hi there, I've been looking at the threads on this forum for a while now regarding the NET scheme and I've learned a lot. I have a much stronger impression of what I'm thinking of applying for. I have a few questions remaining though:

1) On the application form I am asked to detail all post-qualification ESL experience, but my teaching credential is not ESL specific. I have QTS in the UK, via the Graduate Teacher Programme, and I am qualified to teach in mainstream primary schools and special ed. schools. Are there any others on this forum who are applying this year and who only have QTS with no formal ESL certificate?

I had the impression that the most relevant credential is QTS, and that a TEFL certificate was a bonus. Why would someone train for QTS and then go off to teach something different? I'm sure there's something I'm missing here.

2) I'm currently teaching in a special needs school which I really enjoy. If there are any NETs here who work at HK special needs schools it would be great to here about your experience.

3) If I get through the application and interview and land a job, I will be coming to HK with my wife, who is Japanese. What is the sentiment towards Japanese people there? I know that recently anti-Japanese feelings have been on the rise in mainland China, would there be any hassle in HK?


Kind regards to those who can offer me some advice and support.
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Perilla



Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: NET questions: application, SEN, wife's nationality. Reply with quote

chinchon wrote:
1) On the application form I am asked to detail all post-qualification ESL experience, but my teaching credential is not ESL specific. I have QTS in the UK, via the Graduate Teacher Programme, and I am qualified to teach in mainstream primary schools and special ed. schools. Are there any others on this forum who are applying this year and who only have QTS with no formal ESL certificate?

I had the impression that the most relevant credential is QTS, and that a TEFL certificate was a bonus. Why would someone train for QTS and then go off to teach something different? I'm sure there's something I'm missing here.


You're right about QTS being the most important qualification. What you seem to be "missing" is that, for the vast majority of school students in HK, Cantonese is their first language while their English, especially in lower band schools, is poor or even non-existent. Consequently the EDB is keen for applicants to have a TEFL qualification and/or experience. Quite a few NETs are recruited without a TEFL cert of some sort, but I think I'm right in saying that you would be expected to take one at some point during your first year of appointment. For the majority of secondary and primary school NETs the job is TEFL.

chinchon wrote:
2) I'm currently teaching in a special needs school which I really enjoy. If there are any NETs here who work at HK special needs schools it would be great to here about your experience.


Can't help you with that one.

chinchon wrote:
3) If I get through the application and interview and land a job, I will be coming to HK with my wife, who is Japanese. What is the sentiment towards Japanese people there? I know that recently anti-Japanese feelings have been on the rise in mainland China, would there be any hassle in HK?


No problem. In HK the locals seem to have forgotten that the Japanese were a brutal occupying force only 70 years ago - or have forgiven them. HK teens worship Japanese fashion trends and Hongkongers love going there for holidays. Japanese food and resturants are ubiquitous. In short, they can't get enough of Japan, which perhaps at least partly explains the fairly large Japanese population here.
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anninhk



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regard to your experience, it is acceptable to the EDB and will count towards the salary point on the pay scale. You will need a TESOL certificate of some kind as it is now a requirement for all PNET teachers and you will not get a job without one.
I had friends who taught in special schools so there are definte openings in that area.
With regard to your wife there shouldn't be any problems at all.
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chinchon



Joined: 28 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anninhk wrote:
With regard to your experience, it is acceptable to the EDB and will count towards the salary point on the pay scale. You will need a TESOL certificate of some kind as it is now a requirement for all PNET teachers and you will not get a job without one.
I had friends who taught in special schools so there are definte openings in that area.
With regard to your wife there shouldn't be any problems at all.


Thanks, that's good to know. I'm going to apply either way, there's no harm in giving it a go. With regard to ESL, I have several years of full time experience (including the JET scheme in Japan; whether that's seen as a plus or a negative I'm not sure) teaching EFL in Japan, and I'm currently enrolled on an MA ELT course (by distance learning) but I doubt that would count as an ESL teaching credential.

From what I can gather from the info on the EDB website and from what I've read here, I might stand a chance. The only thing is, I'd have to go to either Hong Kong or Toronto to interview which is quite a commitment if I'm unsure as to the outcome (based in the UK, by the way).
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travelfloosie



Joined: 12 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

firstly, chinchon, hahahahahahaha! that's original and very funny for a hk post. i like the irony.

sorry, just my chinglo sense of humour! just in reply to your Q about applying for pnet programme. i too am a primary teacher qts, have been teaching for 6 years in mainstream. however my experience of pnet has not been favourable as i was shortlisted for interview in london 1st time only to be told at feedback (which is very rare apparently) that although i was fully qualified i did lack a TEFL cert. so come back next year, which i did and this time was told that i was lacking in the teaching years! this was 4 years ago as after the second experience i was quite down i simply got a job in school here in the uk. now with some years teaching both in school and foreign students i think i have racked up some experience and hope to apply again. so don't be discouraged if you get a knock back. the system is very slow and jobs worthy in nature.
ho yun!
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