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[Daniel1234]

Hello I have worked in HK for 4 years in a number of kindergartens, learning centers and also short courses in Primary and High schools. I have had some jobs that were quite reliable, but others that were very dodgy and unscrupulous - examples of this - being fired for using a signature instead of a stamp, (in addition to about 3 other similar and minor offenses) being told I was a bad teacher by places that didn't even have a syllabus and couldn't speak English ! Having an agent take a 30% cut of my pay for a year without telling me - Lawyer said it was fine by law as I signed a contract (which they decieved me in order that I sign). Not being paid for a weeks work (I got paid after making a claim). Centers with little or no lesson material that get you to smile and act friendly so the students will come back and the parents will think the center is good. Depressing work environments where in the lunch room no one says a word to each other. I know I am not alone, my friend Mr Jose who teaches at HK USPACE has had similar experiences of bad treatment (not while at uspace) but in kindergartens such as those I work in. I am wondering what others say, of the places I worked at there were a good number that were OK and I have developed a good relationship with - one that I stuck with for 3 years, but there are some very dodgy and untrustworthy practices with little protection for workers. In Australia were I come from the government has many laws in place to prevent this from happening. I imagine for those with better contracts eg the net scheme this is not a problem, but I am wondering if anyone has had similar experiences. Not to get anyone down either, I love HK and now I have a good school which is looking after me ! What does anyone think ?

[Perilla]

Paradise? HK certainly isn't my idea of paradise. Can't say I have experienced those kind of problems though I've certainly heard of others (including on this forum) having them. Surprised at your mentioning trouble at HKU SPACE - I worked for them for six years and had no complaints, except that teaching HK adults in evening classes is a drag.

[Daniel1234]

Sorry I give the wrong impression, my friend works at uspace, but he had trouble at the kindergarten we were working at and one before it. It seems to me that a lot of these things get passed over and I thought it is better if it is common knowledge

[Joshua2006]

Go read the Korean board if you want to read about problems in the workspace. I think it speaks volumes when 1 in 30 posts on this board is mentioning bad working conditions when over there 1 in 30 doesn't.....

It sounds like, and forgive me cos I am relatively new in HK, employers here are a million percent better and employees can actually stand up for themselves without having to have 54 users from an internet site holding their hand through a 'rough' patch....

[Daniel1234]

In Hong Kong Employers who exploit their workers is very widespread, but it is a problem that mainly affects locals, as I said there is little protection offered for workers rights. My wife who is chinese is forced to work until 9 instead of 5 because her boss threatens the workers. For westerners however the affect is less noticable, most of them are with good contracts in upper class areas. I do not have a degree, so although I have taught for 4 years I am forced to take jobs at the lower end which means I am more exposed to this sort of thing. It would be quite humourous to put you to work in the situations I have faced and say that it was bad in Korea. There isn't much use saying it is not bad in HK because it is bad in Korea is there ? But if you don't believe me, I should point out that you have never seen my working situation for yourself and on top of that have judged it with an unfair comparison. Obviously you must reserve your sympathy for those in Korea who properly deserve it.

[Joshua2006]

[Perilla]

[Daniel1234]

Did you get your degree in talking about things you don't understand ? Why would I feel sorry for anyone in Korea at all then ? They are obviously their own victims of their own folly as you say that I am ? You don't manage to explain how you can talk about things you've never even seen yourself do you ? So their is no exploitation in HK and it is fine then ? It's a good thing I teach in kindergarten because I can undestand your stupidity pretty easily. Why don't you shut your mouth and stick your degree up your backside and while your at it you can tell me what you know about the teaching situation in HK. I think that should solve YOUR problem quite nicely. Enjoy your fantasy. I wonder if anyone has some input that involves facts or experience and not self justified imbecilic speculations ?

[Daniel1234]

By the way 3 stars for creativity and effort, done with a masters degree and a guess was it ? It doesn't take skill to fleece you - ha ha If I'm a bad teacher and that proves it, then you must be an utter idiot of a student. Why don't you tell us some more about what you know ?

[Daniel1234]

A learned opinion ! Ha ha you've certainly earned my opinion haven't you ?

[Daniel1234]

Stupid to say I shouldn't have gotten into the situation having been here for some time ? Obviously I knew about it before I got here didn't I then ? But my mistake is crediting you with an answer that contains an accurate meaning isn't it ? Should I go on to correct all your other mistakes as well ? I suppose you realise the definition of experience now which is what I learned over time that you haven't a clue about isn't it ? Why don't you stick around here and learn about it for a few more years, before displaying the depths of your ignorance.

[Daniel1234]

PS little student don't you realize you are being treated like the idiot you are ? Why don't you try and stick up for yourself and your impressive knowledge ?

[Mr. Kalgukshi]

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