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projectgenesis



Joined: 15 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: break down of expenses please Reply with quote

Hi, is there anyone that has just arrived or returned from Japan that can give me a rough break down on the minimum amount of money needed to set up when you arrive there, I mean in terms of rent, key money, etc. I understand this all depends on where you are posted. I will only have about �2500 saved if I were to get out there for March. I have a feeling this will not be enough, baring in mind I will have to wait 6 weeks for my first pay check. Thanks everyone.
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Bread



Joined: 24 May 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That might be enough, but you haven't given any kind of information at all. Is that money left after buying a plane ticket? Will you already have a job?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how I used to describe expenses for people who come without a job in hand. Everything is an average, so it roughly takes into account rural and urban situations. It does not include airfare.

rent 50,000-80,000 yen/month (guesthouse accommodation, which might also want a 25,000 yen refundable deposit)

utilities (none for guesthouse)

phone (cell phone can be 0 yen if you buy a 1-year-old model, plus 10,000 yen setup costs, plus 5000-8000 yen/month service fees depending on the multitude of options)

local transportation 25,000 yen/month (does not include long distance trips to other cities)

food 30,000-50,000 yen/month (depends on how you shop and whether you are a carnivore or vegetarian)

miscellaneous things (insurance, hair care, dry cleaning, photocopying/printing, postage, buying a newspaper for the ads only)

everything else is a luxury in this regard
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Kaycie21



Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you coming over with Interac, cause it sounds like you may be. If you are they have an option to take the apartment set up money out of your first paycheck, instead of paying up front. Then the 2300 will be plenty. I've been here for a little bit less than a month and have spent about 600, most on food and things for the new place.
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projectgenesis



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Cutting it too fine Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for the replies everyone. I'm waiting to hear back from companies at the moment. Never the less it is necessary for me to start looking at things financially from now. Dam! I didn't factor in my flight. It seems like the amount I plan to save will not be enough after calculating your expenses and it seems I will be scraping by and that's if everything goes well. If I overspend or if there is an emergency I will be in trouble. After March, when do the companies consider hiring ALTs, is it in September? I think I need to save more money otherwise I will be cutting it fine.
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bluetortilla



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Location: Henan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That all being said, you can live for about $10 US a day for daily necessities (minus transportation and all that). I know 'cause I've done it Very Happy
I lived at a guest house in Tokyo for less than 130,000 y a month for a while (including everything) and did OK.
All bare bones stuff mind you.
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Kaycie21



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hiring process for ALTs who start in September start way before, I'm not sure of the exact month... but I'd suggest just applying now and requesting to start in September.
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flyer



Joined: 16 May 2003
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Location: Sapporo Japan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaycie21 wrote:
The hiring process for ALTs who start in September start way before, I'm not sure of the exact month... but I'd suggest just applying now and requesting to start in September.


if he means next September (??) then now its too early, if he means this September then thats now, and too late.
So if its next year, then just apply a few months ahead.

Bare in mind that the intake for ALT jobs is a lot less in September, April is the main starting time for most jobs.
... and another thing, Japan is not really the country to cut things too fine on the financial side (until you get set up) ... things are not cheap
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projectgenesis



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just want to say thanks guys for all the info, it has really helped me reach some clarity about my situation. Basically I need more money.
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