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athenssoest



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: university teaching Reply with quote

What would be the typical pay and conditions for a university teaching job in China? What are the typical qualifications?
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xi.gua



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extremely vague question. It depends on where you're teaching.

In the boondocks, i've seen teachers making 4k RMB per month with no college education and no teaching experience. In Beijing/Shanghai you can make 15k RMB per month easy, but they will also expect degrees and experience and certs. Just like in America, teaching at a university in New York isn't the same as teaching at Joe Bob Community College in Dodge City, Kansas.

On average, it feels like salaries are maybe 5-6k RMB per month based on posts i've seen here and people i've seen everywhere with extremely low salaries. 3k, 3.5k
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CJD



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3.5k a month and free housing doesn't seem too bad when you're only working 8 hours a week

15k a month at a uni job in beijing easy? i find that hard to believe
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DoubleDutch



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Typical" would be something like 4-5k/month plus apartment plus return ticket for 16-20 hrs/week. Qualifications would be BA and TEFL, with preferably 2 years teaching experience.
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igorG



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5-6 K monthly is just about right. With a MBA and some experience one may end up over 7,000 monthly. Comparing this to some K12 international schools on mainland, it's a peanut.
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Laurence



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Comparing this to some K12 international schools on mainland, it's a peanut.


a) That's a very different type of job - one requiring post graduate qualifications, professional work experience and *gasp* a full time schedule. Not a useful comparison.

b) no definite article and inappropriate use of singular over plural: that's totally Chinglish. Beware.

I think uni salaries top out at about 8000 for standard orrow Engrish class, but specialist teaching can pay higher (especially joint venture schemes and academic prep courses). Perhaps 15K in BJ and Shangers is easy to find if you know where to look, but I don't think there are that many public offers for such positions - I have never come across any anyway.

Most people go for uni jobs because of the low number of teaching / office hours (less than 20 per week / 0) and long holidays at both Chinese new year and during the summer, and the fact that accommodation is often taken care of. However, campus life is usually far from clean and cushty.

Some do luck out though ~

Also, note that 'unpaid vacation' seems to crop up more now than it did last decade. Pity employers are cottoning onto this. In Korea (a good market precedent, perhaps), long paid holidays at academic institutions are pretty much a distant memory ~
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wenzo



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my uni pays 4000rmb/month with dorm style rooms.
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maotouying



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: university teaching Reply with quote

athenssoest wrote:
What would be the typical pay and conditions for a university teaching job in China? What are the typical qualifications?



Read this link its very typical.

http://jobs.teachabroadchina.com/teachingjobs/public-college-wanted-esl-teachers-jinzhong-shanxi3)

Salary: RMB 5,000-6,000 (A little less than a 1000 USD a month)
Teaching Load: 16-18 Classes per week (50 minutes each)
Working Visa: Yes
Free accommodation
Airfare: No more than RMB10,000
Travel allowance: RMB2,200
Native Speaker+22-60 years
Bachelor degree or above
teaching experience
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DixieCat



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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15k a month at a uni job in beijing easy? i find that hard to believe


Not sure it is easy but it's not that rare.
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igorG



Joined: 10 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no definite article and inappropriate use of singular over plural: that's totally Chinglish. Beware.
Isn't that a bit hostile? Is it all formal and tight arse on here?

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Comparing this to some K12 international schools on mainland, it's a peanut.
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That's a very different type of job - one requiring post graduate qualifications, professional work experience and *gasp* a full time schedule. Not a useful comparison.
I wouldn't say VERY. Are you saying that local Universities foreign teachers lack postgraduate qualifications, and/or professional work experience? NOT A USEFUL FOLLOW-UP.

However, I understand that K12 international schools are advertising some highly pro foreign teachers for not only high salaries but also sky high tuition fees that only the selected ones can afford. Yes, a foreigner could really be a specialist in higher education, but s/he would not be able to measure up to a K12 highly pro fella that has to deal with a full time schedule.
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