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SaratheSlytherin



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Another important apostille question Reply with quote

I hope that this predicament can help someone else in my situation, but I'm really worried that I'm just screwed.

To get a working permit for Mexico, of course, you have to have an apostilled TESOL certificate as one of the documents.

I live in North Carolina, the home of simple things made complicated... I was told that they can only authenticate documents from North Carolina or in some circumstances another state.

I got my TESOL certificate in Barcelona...
I'm really worried that I won't be able to get my work permits.

Please tell me if you know of a solution... I have to leave next week and I'm freaking out. Mad

Thank you if you can help.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short of sending off to Barcelona for the apostille, how about just getting it for your degree and relying on that? The apostille is for immigration only and not the job.

As well, it appears you don't even need to show qualifications to immigration anymore as long as an employing school writes the job offer letter the right way. I wouldn't bank on it as this seems a new thing, but it could be a problem-solver for you.
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SaratheSlytherin



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Short of sending off to Barcelona for the apostille, how about just getting it for your degree and relying on that? The apostille is for immigration only and not the job.

As well, it appears you don't even need to show qualifications to immigration anymore as long as an employing school writes the job offer letter the right way. I wouldn't bank on it as this seems a new thing, but it could be a problem-solver for you.


guy to the rescue again Smile

I'mreally concerned because I can't get my diploma until after I left... would they allow it to be couriered, do you think (the school)?
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MotherF



Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarah, this worked once for us many years ago when we hired a British man who had a British degree and was residing in Florida at the time.

Take your TESOL cert to a local notary and ask for them to make a notarized copy. Some notaries don't know that they can do this since they have spent their entire career as a notary only notarizing signatures. So if they refuse, tell them to get out their handy dandy notary handbook and check it out. There is special language that they put on the back of the copy saying that this is a true copy of an original document presented before them (but this does not authenticate the institution or the content of the document anyway in only authenticates the photocopy.) Then take this notarized copy to the Secretary of State of the state in which that person is a notary. The Secretary of State also issues apostilles which authenticate notaries. They will authenticate that the signature and stamp of that notary are in fact true and legal.
In theory, this is not the kind of apostille immigration wants you to have, but it is an apostille we've had many teachers who were in states other than the one where they got their degree and in my experience immigration has never looked at any apostille carefully enough to notice the difference. Even in the case when the degree was from England and the apostille from Florida.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy wrote:
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I wouldn't bank on it as this seems a new thing,


Exactly right, not to bank on it. It's not a new thing (the chance that this can happen), but it strictly depends on the hiring entity being 'in' good and tight with someone in the local Immigration office. The instance posted on this forum should probably be considered the exception, and not the rule. Best to be prepared for doing it the right way and avoid all kinds of stress.
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SaratheSlytherin



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I really appreciate your answers.

Just wondering: Did any of you all get your TESOL certificate in Spain? What did you do about the apostille?
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Tretyakovskii



Joined: 14 Aug 2009
Posts: 462
Location: Cancun, Mexico

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've answered this question in detail, before, so I'll just say that you can take your TEFL certificate, accompanied by your affidavit in which you explain that you received the attached original certificate for completion of an intensive course in the teaching of English as a Foreign Language; and, that it has been in your custody and care since the day your received it. A U.S. Consular Official will take your oath, and put their very official looking seal on it. No INM official will question it, in my opinion. If you're already in Mexico, and you have your foreign certificate with you, this is an alternative to the very complex, and potentially costly process of getting it Apostilled; for example, in Spain, as in your case.

This approach is not my original idea, but was advocated on this forum, as was many of the things I've applied to the very nice results I've had before the INM, here.
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