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Iamherebecause
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 427 Location: . . . such quantities of sand . . .
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject: Foundation programmes: to be or not to be |
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This article is from the Gulf News 3 October 2010:
Majority not prepared for university
More foundation programmes on offer across the UAE indicate that a large number of school-leavers are unprepared for tertiary education.
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/education/majority-not-prepared-for-university-1.690616
But what the Provost at UAEU is doing flies in the face of the facts as explained in the above article. He seems to want to close down the Foundation Programme (UGRU) as he'd rather have a PhD programme ... don't DARE mention that most of the candidates are not local; or that the promised funding from Gov't coffers has yet to come through.
What's happening at ZU, University of Sharjah etc? Are they also suggesting the premature dismantling of foundation programmes? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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You could change the date of that article to 1990 and nothing has changed... 90% of the local students who enter tertiary education need a Foundations program. The problem is as it always has been... a K-12 school system that passes students no matter what... and is naturally taught in the language of the students... Arabic. The problem is and always has been the change of language to English at university level. The 10% who manage direct entry come from the minority of students whose families send them to private International Schools where they are taught in English from the early grades. (these number will only change if the current program being adopted in the schools succeeds... and that will be 10 years or so in the future to see the results)
The UAEU is the only institution in the country that provides housing for its Foundations students... many of whom take years to get through... or take years trying and never get through. This is hugely expensive. They have merely outsourced the Foundations programs so that these students prepare in their own cities and thus arrive at UAEU theoretically ready to start their degree programs.
Obviously neither ZU nor any other institution is planning to do away with their programs. I suspect that there will be private institutions opening purely for foundations preparation.
VS
(PS... speaking of ZU... when they began, their intention was to have no foundations program because their methodology was going to be so superior - computers were going to be the answer. We teachers at HCT laughed up our sleeves... and sure enough, they had to add one after 2 years of failure.) |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, but VS, now they probably have Smart Boards like we do here on the base where I work in KSA. The new answer to superior education, they're so complicated and unwieldy that only software engineers and salespeople can use half of their features. (We use them just as screens for the computer projector.)
OK, now I know everybody will come on and tell me I'm stupid because YOU use them with great ease and effect. Phooey. |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yay, SNB is as SmartBoard challenged as I am! I especially like those instructors who use whiteboard markers on the SmartBoard screen  |
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mimi_intheworld
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 167 Location: UAE
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, I do love having a smart board in my classroom, I admit it. However, unless you have several student-free hours in which to figure it out, a smart board is kind of frustrating.
That said - are they the magic pill to solve all educational woes? Ooh, I hope so!!!
.....Or perhaps we'll just have to carry on teaching.
SNB, on the Teach Away forum on facebook (where I spend most of my time these days) one teacher was concerned because all he has in his classroom is a white board. You should give him some tips! |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Blackboard and chalk is good enough for me thanks ! |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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mimi_intheworld wrote: |
SNB, on the Teach Away forum on facebook (where I spend most of my time these days) one teacher was concerned because all he has in his classroom is a white board. You should give him some tips! |
Hah! And this in a country where 60 years ago, the Imams were drawing figures in sand with sticks and the kiddies were well-versed in rote-memorization!
Well, at least they git rid of the sticks and the sand stays more-or-less out of doors...
NCTBA |
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uaeobserver
Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 236
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Things haven't changed. I recall reading the same thing back in 2005.
To give you an idea how people think in that region of the world, I've outlined the problem/solution (at least how they'd frame it):
Problem: Students are not adequately prepared for university study
Solution: Conferences and fireworks, MoUs, and new doctoral programs.
Patently brilliant. |
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Gus Barkley
Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Posts: 78
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Any word on how happy/unhappy the future UAEU students are being stuck in their villas in Fujairah? I wonder how many will keep UAEU as their first choice after going to HCT for a year. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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mimi_intheworld wrote: |
SNB, on the Teach Away forum on facebook (where I spend most of my time these days) one teacher was concerned because all he has in his classroom is a white board. You should give him some tips! |
Ooh, you missed the regional TESOL Arabia conference at HCT in Ras al Khaimah a few years back. They had a session on Five Effective Ways to Use the Whiteboard or something like that. I was in RAK then but I missed it too. I lose a lot of sleep over that...
p.s. Whiteboard tips? One thing you can do on a white board that you can't on the electronic Smart Board is bring four students up to the board at once who simultaneously write stuff on it that the student audience can jeer and cheer. One of the few activities I can do in DLI that engages more than 2 students at a time. Can't do that with the S.B. because (a) it's not wide enough; (b) I don't think it's designed to handle more than one writer at a time, and (c) management doesn't have more than one electronic pen per board. |
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Iamherebecause
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 427 Location: . . . such quantities of sand . . .
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: |
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They have merely outsourced the Foundations programs so that these students prepare in their own cities and thus arrive at UAEU theoretically ready to start their degree programs. |
Would that it were so simple. In fact at least one faculty is taking students who do not meet the basic entry requirements and therefore ought to have done a foundation programme but haven't. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Iamherebecause wrote: |
In fact at least one faculty is taking students who do not meet the basic entry requirements and therefore ought to have done a foundation programme but haven't. |
Not surprising... the Gulf universities have never been known for their high standards. But hey... their ball game and their ball (and their money)... and the eventual output will be their citizens and workforce.
VS |
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scrog_420
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 47 Location: State of Jefferson
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sheikh N Bake wrote: |
OK, now I know everybody will come on and tell me I'm stupid because YOU use them with great ease and effect. Phooey. |
Heck no! You are absolutely correct. Smart Boards are one of the dumbest things ever invented--a solution in search of a problem. I had to use one at an Emirati base and I detested it. But in the UAE you gotta love educational tehnology. Remember, nothing counts if you can't put an "e" in front of it. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. There was a simpler, more user-friendly earlier version, but like the evil nerds at Microsoft the designers decided they had to make it as inaccessible as possible, like an e-board equivalent of Vista--only worse. |
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