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mr.cheeks
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Phnom Penh
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:50 am Post subject: Where am i most likely to find work without degree/quals? |
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Hi, ive been teaching English in Cambodia for around a year, and i'm looking at moving on.
I don't have a degree (i'm educated to GCSE A standard) and i don't have any certificates as such.
But i do have a years worth of experience.
Could anybody suggest any other countries where it may be quite easy to find work without these things?
Thanks a lot..... |
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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China. |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Where am i most likely to find work without degree/quals |
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mr.cheeks wrote: |
Hi, ive been teaching English in Cambodia for around a year, and i'm looking at moving on.
I don't have a degree (i'm educated to GCSE A standard) and i don't have any certificates as such.
But i do have a years worth of experience.
Could anybody suggest any other countries where it may be quite easy to find work without these things?
Thanks a lot..... |
Easy to find work = anywhere in SE Asia, Central/South America.
Easy to find LEGAL work (with visa and/or work permits) = virtually no-where without some qualifications (TEFL/TESOL as a minimum).
Spend the 30 days to at least get a TEFL cert and you start to open up some doors.
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mr.cheeks
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Phnom Penh
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, so as far as the tefl's are concerned, would an online course suffice?
And which countries in particular when you say central/south America would you reccomend?
Thanks again..... |
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MrMrLuckyKhan
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Kingdom of Cambodia
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I picked up my first TEFL job in Indonesia while on vacation. I didn't have my degree with me, and told them I could get it shipped within a few days from home (the States) if they needed it, and they said not to worry about it. Many of the teachers there work with no quals/experience at all. With a year of experience u'll be a better 'catch' than some other rookie teachers there.
As Ttom said, you technically need a tefl cert and possibly a degree, BUT the term 'LEGAL' has a different meaning in Asia than it does in the West. All the teachers I knew in Indonesia that were working without the quals had LEGAL work visas/KITAS. The school pays that for you there.
I've said this before, but you're 'illegally working legally.' |
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bulgogiboy

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Do a CELTA/Trinity Cert TESOL, and look at it as investment.
Don't do an online TEFL course, as for the most part employers think very little of them. |
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AdrianG4
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 160 Location: Harbin, China
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Probably China -- definitely China. Seriously, though -- do a 30 day on site TESL course.
If you've got money ..
CELTA
TRINITY
SIT
Moderately cheap priced course providers with world wide centres and a level of name brand (not on the name brand level of the three above though)
INTESOL World Wide
ITTO
I to I
TEFL International (it might have the most centres) |
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MrMrLuckyKhan
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Kingdom of Cambodia
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: |
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AdrianG4 wrote: |
Probably China -- definitely China. Seriously, though -- do a 30 day on site TESL course.
If you've got money ..
CELTA
TRINITY
SIT
Moderately cheap priced course providers with world wide centres and a level of name brand (not on the name brand level of the three above though)
INTESOL World Wide
ITTO
I to I
TEFL International (it might have the most centres) |
I to I is crap.... I guess they would be considered notorious.... Of the moderately cheap ones, I would go with TEFL International... |
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mr.cheeks
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Phnom Penh
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: |
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to be honest, the cash situation isn't looking as healthy as i'd like it to... To be honest, the school i'm at now in Cambodia didn't even ask to see any credentials..... which was fine by me.
So, if i just bowled up in China, with say $2000 in my pocket, what do you think my chances are of getting some form of qualification/certificate and work??
And where in China would you's reccomend exactly?
Thanks again, i sincerely appreciate your feedback.
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: |
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2000 USD is a good chunk of change in China, but if you just show up......
It's best to have SOME direction when you get here and to have enough to make an escape if need be. |
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MrMrLuckyKhan
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Kingdom of Cambodia
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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mr.cheeks wrote: |
to be honest, the cash situation isn't looking as healthy as i'd like it to... To be honest, the school i'm at now in Cambodia didn't even ask to see any credentials..... which was fine by me.
So, if i just bowled up in China, with say $2000 in my pocket, what do you think my chances are of getting some form of qualification/certificate and work??
And where in China would you's reccomend exactly?
Thanks again, i sincerely appreciate your feedback.
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Well, a half decent cert/qual would cost you AT LEAST $1,000, so that sounds like a bad plan to me....
What do you get paid in Cambodia!?!? |
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mr.cheeks
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Phnom Penh
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm on just over a grand a month at the minute, tax-free/ paid holidays etc... just had enough of all the mental shit to be honest, the corruption, the lexus driving arseholes etc.... |
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bulgogiboy

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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mr.cheeks wrote: |
just had enough of all the mental shit to be honest, the corruption, the lexus driving arseholes etc.... |
And you think China doesn't have all of these horrible things plus more....?  |
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mozzar
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 339 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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mr.cheeks wrote: |
I'm on just over a grand a month at the minute, tax-free/ paid holidays etc... just had enough of all the mental shit to be honest, the corruption, the lexus driving arseholes etc.... |
Earning that much you should be able to save for a TEFL certificate to help yourself and your students. |
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bdbarnett1
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 178 Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Don't you think you owe it to yourself and your students to at least get a B.A.? |
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