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[al capone]

so i have a tesol education certificate through I-TO-I and further full diplomas which i obtained in Thailand and Cambodia

does anyone know how to do your DELTA etc in Mexico and if there is the availabilty for funding as a British citizen??

the British council option(on line DELTA) is wildly expensive �3,000 + especially considering the wages and currency change for Mexico

so is there any other viable or inexpensive method..on-line etc

currentlyworking for two schools in San Luis Potosi but want to take my education further and towards a degree


cheers for any advice,help or general comments

[gregd75]

I would suggest the Cambridge ICELT and the Trinity distance diploma.

Both are expensive - but cheaper than the DELTA.

I have started off on the Trinity diploma because a fair few masters courses in the UK accept the diploma and give you credits- in case you decided to further your studies in the future.

[TeresaLopez]

My understanding is that the ICELT is for non-native speakers.

[Enchilada Potosina]

[al capone]

and whats the deal with getting funding??

not much chance of getting help from a chain school unless you give them 10 pints of blood a week

how much are these diplomas

saw one for 960 dollars but unsure if it is accrediated or has any real worth

[gregd75]

the In-service Certificate for English Language Teachers is aimed at non-native speakers, but its not EXCLUSIVELY for them. The SEP accepts the ICELT as a bachelors equivalent, which is becoming more important as the SEP tries to 'professionalise' ELT. In other words, a couple of years ago anyone could pretty much teach English- with the SEP having very few requirements for ELT teachers. There has been a move towards certifying teachers if schools want their English programme certified by the SEP. Bachelors degree (or equivalent- such as ICELT) for high school, Masters for university level.

So, of you're planning on staying in Mexico for the longer term then, again the ICELT is a real option.

The Trinity diploma is more challenging, I think, but it is don't via distance learning, so you can study at your own speed. Also, I like the diploma because you can pay in parts. I have just paid 500 pounds for the first 3 workbooks- once done I can pay for the next part. This seems reasonable, and as I said, if you're thinking of studying a masters in the future, then this can count as credits.

I'd also suggest two other options- first of all MEXTESOL www.mextesol.org.mx is a teachers association which has a national conference every year. This would be a good opportunity for informal professional development.

Theres also the IATEFL conference every year in the UK. They offer several scholarships to attend this conference- next year is in Brighton. Cambridge have several scholarships (which can be found on the IATEFL conference page) which offer conference entrance, 5 nights room and board as well as flights back to the UK. This may be a good way to have some professional development AND to get back home at the same time!

Could be worth a look....

[MotherF]

UNAM has an online diploma course in applied linguistics for inservice foriegn language teachers.

http://alad.cele.unam.mx/

[TeresaLopez]

[al capone]

so which one is best???

ICELT..DELTA..TRINITY DIPLOMA..CAMBRIDGE??/


and the ICELT is the equivilent to a degree???

and can be done online??


The British Council:Mexico are a nightmare to get in touch with..hopeless

so which organisation is the best?


cheers

[Prof.Gringo]

[al capone]

can,t that be done online?? at least in part

is it universally recognised?? what does it encompass?

that link was,nt to good

but cheers

[Allie]

Does anyone know of any courses like the CELE that run outside of Mexico City? I'm based in Queretaro. I looked on the UAQ website but it doesn't look like they offer anything like that at all.

Also - I already have the CELTA, would it make sense for me to do the CELE too or would it be a repetition?

[donato]

The ICELT is a once a week, 5 hour class, 8 to 10 month course that fits in between a CELTA and a DELTA. Just thought there was a little misinformation in this thread. I haven't read or been told anything official that the course has anything to do with specifically being aimed at non-native speakers. It is for teachers that are currently teaching. It is also my understanding that it is good to take the course if you plan on doing the DELTA at some point because it has some overlap, and therefore would make that course easier. And since so many people don't pass the DELTA the first time, that may not be such a bad idea.

http://www.cambridgeesol.org/exams/teaching-awards/icelt.html

https://www.teachers.cambridgeesol.org/ts/teachingqualifications/ICELT

http://www.cambridgeesol.org/exams/teaching-awards/index.html

[TeresaLopez]

[donato]

Well, I just started it mostly because since I work there I get a 50% discount. Everyone taking it already has a Celta or equivalent, so I think maybe that is why they wanted you to take it first? Of the 16 students, 4 are teachers at IH and about half are native speakers (American or British) and half aren't. But I think you would probably find that native/non-native breakdown in most courses like this. The course lasts through the first week in December, so like nine months. 150 class hours, 8 peer observations, 4 practical teaching observations. Papers on those, then an additional four language tasks of 750-1,000 words, and an additional other 4 classroom-related assignments of 1,000-1,500 words. The course has 7 units:

1. Language Knowledge and Awareness
2. Background to Teaching and Learning English
3. Resources and Materials
4. Planning and Management of Teaching and Learning
5. Evaluation, Monitoring and Assessment
6. Professional Development
7. Language for Teachers

If you have any other questions about my impressions as the course goes on, I'll be happy to report back.