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Guinness88
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 Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: Upping sticks and flying to Latin America - ADVICE |
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Hi everyone, I'm considering moving to Latin America (perhaps Ecuador or Venezuela) in the new year, and looking for a teaching job.
Can anyone tell me whether this is a really stupid idea or not? When, for example do language schools start hiring? Would I be likely to find a teaching job if I just turned up and started knocking on the doors of language schools, CV in hand?
If anyone has any information about the ESL job markets in specific latin american countries that would be great.
Any advice would be much appreciated! |
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Dragonlady
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JonnyBravo
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Location: Bogota, Colombia
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I agree. Reading the posts of others is what got me interested (and kept me there) for the last several years.
Just look back through old threads and find ones that cover the broad "How do I do it?" and "how to get started" topics and you'll find people have poured out loads of information. If you're interested in Ecuador, read any of the posts Justin Trullinger has posted.
Good luck! |
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just_a_mirage
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Location: ecuador
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| Keep in mind that if you want to work in Ecuador that the visa situation is difficult. You cannot do border runs and you are only allowed 90 days on a tourist visa in a year. You can get a 12-IX visa which is good for 6 months and will allow you to work legally. However it is not renewable, and you must change it to something else before the six months is up. You may be able to find somewhere to sponsor you for a work visa, but this can be difficult, as there are many very good Ecuadorian English teachers, and many places dont want to pay a lawyer to deal with the paperwork. Your best bets to find one of these would be in the bigger cities...Guayaquil or Quito. Another option is to find someplace that can sponsor you for a cultural exchange visa....but you probably wont be paid much. If you can get your visa situation worked out, there are many opportunities here. I have a permanant resident visa and have found many opportunites. and the work is enjoyable and rewarding. |
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BocaNY
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a permanant resident visa and have found many opportunites. and the work is enjoyable and rewarding. |
Just_a_mirage how did you swing getting a resident visa. I love ecuador and would love to live there without the hassle of visas. But from what I heard last in order to become a resident now you pretty much need to marry an Ecuadorian. Is there another way of getting it? |
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just_a_mirage
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I married an Ecuadorian  . The only other ways I know of are the investors visa in which you buy property or bank $25 thousand por retirement if you have a provable monthly income of over $800 a month. |
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naturegirl321
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| just_a_mirage wrote: |
| I married an Ecuadorian . The only other ways I know of are the investors visa in which you buy property or bank $25 thousand por retirement if you have a provable monthly income of over $800 a month. |
Are you able to get citizenship? The investor's visa sounds good. ONly 800 a month isn't that bad. |
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just_a_mirage
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My bad. Thats what I get for typing on my phone with its little tiny keys. Anyway the investors visa requires that you bank at least 25 thousand dollars. The retirment visa requires an income from outside Ecuador of at least 800 a month and you must be able to prove it. For example, a pension, social security, etc. There is as far as I know, no minimum age for the retirment visa.
I believe I am eligible for citizenship....these laws change almost on a daily basis. But I havent found a reason compelling enough to do it that will be worth all the hassle and paper work involved. Maybe in the future. |
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naturegirl321
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| just_a_mirage wrote: |
My bad. Thats what I get for typing on my phone with its little tiny keys. Anyway the investors visa requires that you bank at least 25 thousand dollars. The retirment visa requires an income from outside Ecuador of at least 800 a month and you must be able to prove it. For example, a pension, social security, etc. There is as far as I know, no minimum age for the retirment visa.
I believe I am eligible for citizenship....these laws change almost on a daily basis. But I havent found a reason compelling enough to do it that will be worth all the hassle and paper work involved. Maybe in the future. |
For the investor's visa, do you also hvae to provide jobs for X number of Ecuadorians?
How long have you been in Ecuador? Personally, I (even though I completely despise Peru) thought that getting citizenship was the best way to protect my investments in Peru. Also, makes travel, ironcally, a bit easier here in Asia. For example, I can get a China visa at the border, in Shenzhen, whereas Americans can't. Plus, if I ever decide to go back, I don't have to go through the visa paperwork again. Most, importaly, like I said, having citizenship protects my property back there. Ecuador might be easy, for peru it took a whooping 3 months! Compare that to a couple years in most places. Downside: they changed my name! |
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Isla Guapa
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Most, importaly, like I said, having citizenship protects my property back there. Ecuador might be easy, for peru it took a whooping 3 months! Compare that to a couple years in most places. Downside: they changed my name! |
Three months to become a citizen in Ecuador!? In Mexico, unless you're married to a Mexican, it takes a number of years, somewhere between 5 and 10. |
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HLJHLJ
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
For the investor's visa, do you also hvae to provide jobs for X number of Ecuadorians? |
AIUI you don't have to provide any jobs, you just have to make an investment in the country, but of course it's never as easy as that (what is in LatAm?).
To get a 9-II Investment Visa you have to invest $25000, plus $500 per dependent. It can be invested in almost anything including property or a savings account. If you do it by buying a property the two big catches are that it's based on the assessed tax value, which is often a fraction of the sale price, and after buying the property you must hold the title to it, and many properties are sold without titles. You can get a property reaassed to try and increase it's tax value, but that opens a whole new can of worms. If you buy a property that has the correct tax assessment value and you hold the title to that property, you can then apply for a 9-II.
A 9-II also gets you a Cedula. Once you get the visa you have to remain in Ecuador for the first 2 years. If you leave for more than 90 days (over the whole 2 years) the visa is no longer valid. After the first two years it relaxes and the limit is something like a single absence of 18 months. |
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HevC
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Most, importaly, like I said, having citizenship protects my property back there. Ecuador might be easy, for peru it took a whooping 3 months! Compare that to a couple years in most places. Downside: they changed my name! |
Three months to become a citizen in Ecuador!? In Mexico, unless you're married to a Mexican, it takes a number of years, somewhere between 5 and 10. |
Oooo blimey, yes 3 months is nothing!
A Uruguayan visa has taken me the best part of a year already going back and forth, the full process could take at least another year! Hehe, I should've married an Ecuadorian...rubbish Uruguayan husband doesn't make anything much easier VISA-wise  |
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naturegirl321
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Most, importaly, like I said, having citizenship protects my property back there. Ecuador might be easy, for peru it took a whooping 3 months! Compare that to a couple years in most places. Downside: they changed my name! |
Three months to become a citizen in Ecuador!? In Mexico, unless you're married to a Mexican, it takes a number of years, somewhere between 5 and 10. |
Oooo blimey, yes 3 months is nothing!
A Uruguayan visa has taken me the best part of a year already going back and forth, the full process could take at least another year! Hehe, I should've married an Ecuadorian...rubbish Uruguayan husband doesn't make anything much easier VISA-wise |
NO, NO! Sorry, you miss understood.  the APPLICATION process was 3 months. I had to have my visa for two years. Now the application process is at least 6 months. And this is PERu. Sorry. Uruguay must be the same, you can get citizenship within a couple years I'd imagine. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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| just_a_mirage wrote: |
My bad. Thats what I get for typing on my phone with its little tiny keys. Anyway the investors visa requires that you bank at least 25 thousand dollars. The retirment visa requires an income from outside Ecuador of at least 800 a month and you must be able to prove it. For example, a pension, social security, etc. There is as far as I know, no minimum age for the retirment visa.
I believe I am eligible for citizenship....these laws change almost on a daily basis. But I havent found a reason compelling enough to do it that will be worth all the hassle and paper work involved. Maybe in the future. |
For just $25,000 US I can get a residency visa in Ecuador? 
Please give me a link or PM me some info. I would be very interested in such a program. |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Isla Guapa wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Most, importaly, like I said, having citizenship protects my property back there. Ecuador might be easy, for peru it took a whooping 3 months! Compare that to a couple years in most places. Downside: they changed my name! |
Three months to become a citizen in Ecuador!? In Mexico, unless you're married to a Mexican, it takes a number of years, somewhere between 5 and 10. |
Unless you're from a "Latin" country. Only 2 years in that case. |
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