Job Discussion Forums

living&learning · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 245

So, I'll be finishing up my uni job next year, and wanting to stay on for about another 6 months in China.

Obviously my RP will get cancelled shortly after I finish my job.

However I'd like to stay on in China for about another 4-6 months after that.

I'll be back in my home country in January - would I be able to get a business/tourist visa estill having a valid RP in the passport. Alternatively I have a brand new passport that doesnt have any previous Chinese visas in it - could I use that instead?

My current passport is full of Chinese visa, but it's also running out of pages.

BTW, I can't get a decent length business or tourist visa in HK (60/90/180 days), as per my nationality. U get, like 14 days..

Advice appreciated, cheers in advance.

randyj · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:43 am Post subject:

I don't understand. If you have a brand-new passport, then the old one is canceled. Right? Notwithstanding the new or old passports, any new visa would cancel the RP automatically. Obviously a person would not want to do that. Obtaining an L or F visa for the new passport without affecting the RP, even if that were possible, would probably constitute a violation and cause trouble down the road. It should be possible to score an L visa from your friendly neighborhood PSB shortly before the RP expires. That is fairly routine.

HiddenTreasure · Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Posts: 81

Your passport is full of Chinese visas but you don't even understand how they work?

A visa ONLY allows you to enter the country and is then invalid

The resident permit allows you to stay here after you entered

When you end your employment you no longer have a permit

Thus ... you have no visa, no permit, nothing

If you want to return to China for some purpose then get a new, proper visa per the rules of your nationality

You seem to think, it appears, that if you scam your way into a new passport that nobody will know you had previous visas, permits, and such. Right? You really think that the government doesn't keep track of previous visas? Wow...

With some inferred attempt to deceit the government, trying to obfuscate the process by getting a "brand new passport" for no proper reason ... well it's clearly fishy and you shouldn't be here.

living&learning · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 245

People and their smarmy, pointless finger pointing. I�m quite clear on how various visas work. And it�s perfectly legal to have two passports � one is nearly full, thus I applied for and received a new one, which I�ve yet to use. I have the choice of using either one.

I�m not trying to pull the wool over anyone�s eyes. I�m being financially prudent by trying to save RMB10K by not having to fly back to my country when my RP finishes up. By applying for a tourist/business visa when back home in January I get to save said money.

I have no issues with showing my old passport to the Chinese authorities, here or in my country. � in fact if these brand new posters knew much about the Chinese visa situation they would know the more visas you have in your passport the easier it is to get another one.

The date that this smarmy poster joined this forum suggests that he or she is FOB newby and it shows in their simpleton reply and THEIR lack of knowledge on visas et al. I suspect their stay in China will be short, unpleasant and they will struggle to make friends with their unpleasant, suspicious attitude.

As it turns out I can apply for and receive either a 6 month business or tourist visa, whilst having an RP in my older passport. I can also use either of my two perfectly legal passports to do this. Straight out the horse�s mouth (ie. the Chinese consulate in my country).

One again brand spanking new FOB posterboy, cut your teeth, make the mistakes, fall over, dust yourself off, then try again try again. Your poisonous words of ill-wisdom are not going to win you any friends on this board (or elsewhere). It�s a pity riff-raff like you end up here, and there�s certainly no �hiding� the poison in you.

Cairnsman · Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 203

living&learning · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 245

Cairnsman · Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 203

I�m not secretive about or ashamed to reveal that I�m Australian.

All Americans that I have met / worked with in the Asian countries I�ve lived in were not secretive about or ashamed to reveal their nationality.

All Canadians that I have met / worked with in the Asian countries I�ve lived in were not secretive about or ashamed to reveal their nationality.

Same applies to Kiwis, Japanese, French, Russian and German persons I�ve met or worked with.

Paul D. · Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 55

I guess my old mind isn't that bad after all or I just read Dave's too much. In the past L&L mentioned SA = South Africa.

living&learning · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 245

Paul D. · Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 55

Guerciotti · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject:

What's an FOB?

Paul D. · Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 55

Perhaps "Roger" from SA knows? I should have asked him when we met at Milano's Italian Restaurant in GZ around this time in 2005.

But then again, I just "joined" a couple of months ago! What do I know?

Guerciotti · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject:

living&learning · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 245

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

God Bless South Africa !