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Guy Courchesne
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 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: Borrow and Lend |
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| How do you teach these words, if at all? |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Role playing, one student can have a pen (for example) and lend it to another. (May I borrow your pen? Yes, I will lend you my pen). Thereby it can be shown that the giver lends and the receiver borrows. Repetition with other objects should reinforce the point.
This could have a practical use in a business class roleplay, using an entrepreneur and a banker.
Strangely enough, this is all theory, as I can't remember having ever taught these words! |
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Dragonlady
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Nothing works.
I've resigned to the theory that it has something to do with L! transferring.
4 classes/day, 5 days/wk, 2 1/2 years with the same groups of SS and inevitably, one will ask "teacher, can you borrow me a pen" to which I always reply "of course, if you ask me again correctly", to which they reply "oh right, sorry... teacher can you lend to me a pen"... 
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DL |
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PlayadelSoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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That is a tough one and it is one of the most frustrating L1 interference situations, IMHO.
I try to focus on word association. "You" with "lend" and "I" with "borrow." Rarely do we say "Can I lend you X?". |
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MotherF
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I find it's best to teach borrow to elementary students and try not to let them even know about the exsitance of lend.
Only later in preintermediate teach lend with lots of contrasting sentances adn sentence tranformations between the too. |
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Dragonlady
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I find it's best to teach borrow to elementary students and try not to let them even know about the exsitance of lend.
Only later in preintermediate teach lend with lots of contrasting sentences and sentence transformations between the too. |
The majority of my SS are upper intermediate and advanced. They know the difference, they know the correct sentence structure. They're all able to respond correctly in test situations. It's the on-the-spot real-life-situations where probably half get muddled - an inability to produce what they know in theory.
The same happens with spelling. On an actual spelling exam, results are awesome. When using the same words in a writing assignment where they are concentrating on final product, production of individual components is lost (for many, not all).
Apparently this happens to the best of us.
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DL |
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FreddyM
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| MotherF wrote: |
I find it's best to teach borrow to elementary students and try not to let them even know about the exsitance of lend.
Only later in preintermediate teach lend with lots of contrasting sentances adn sentence tranformations between the too. |
with kids, it's one of the most common mistakes I run into. "Can you borrow me your ipod." I try to teach them by telling them the correct way to say it, using both lend and borrow. "Can I borrow your ipod." or "Can you lend me your ipod." Have them repeat it. Without an explanation. After a few dozen times some of them start to get it.
But then the question becomes, why the heck am I lending my ipod so many times to these kids?  |
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PlayadelSoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| FreddyM wrote: |
| MotherF wrote: |
I find it's best to teach borrow to elementary students and try not to let them even know about the exsitance of lend.
Only later in preintermediate teach lend with lots of contrasting sentances adn sentence tranformations between the too. |
with kids, it's one of the most common mistakes I run into. "Can you borrow me your ipod." I try to teach them by telling them the correct way to say it, using both lend and borrow. "Can I borrow your ipod." or "Can you lend me your ipod." Have them repeat it. Without an explanation. After a few dozen times some of them start to get it.
But then the question becomes, why the heck am I lending my ipod so many times to these kids? |
Yeah, it actually works out cheaper to go with a pencil.  |
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