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naturegirl321
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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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I know, I just moved from Peru to Korea, however, it never hurts to plan ahead. I've looked at this programme a couple times before
http://www.educacion.es/exterior/usa/en/File/aux_us/manual_20101123.pdf
And it seems decent. 700 a month doesn't seem much. And from what I understand, housing isn't included. So a couple questions, I haven't lived in Spain since 2002, so nowadays,
what do flats go for?
Anyone gone through this programme?
Typical monthly budget for boring poeple who eat at home and rarely go out?
I realise that the pay isn't that good, BUT, the benefits would be. After two years, we could get Spanish citizenship, then the world woudl be our oyster 
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mozzar
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I had a friend who went through a similar program and she enjoyed it. Ended up with an MA too and is back this year working in a school and she was American.
A typical flat (sharing) would be minimum �300. Travel: �50. So living on �700 might be a bit tight but you could do it. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| mozzar wrote: |
I had a friend who went through a similar program and she enjoyed it. Ended up with an MA too and is back this year working in a school and she was American.
A typical flat (sharing) would be minimum �300. Travel: �50. So living on �700 might be a bit tight but you could do it. |
Thanks for the info and link. Sadly, logicistic -wise, I don't think it's going ot work out. We live in Asia, we'd have to apply in the US, and my husband can't because he's Peruvian. Yet another idea shot down  |
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Perilla
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| I realise that the pay isn't that good, BUT, the benefits would be. After two years, we could get Spanish citizenship, then the world woudl be our oyster |
How would you get Spanish citizenship after two years? |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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| Perilla wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| I realise that the pay isn't that good, BUT, the benefits would be. After two years, we could get Spanish citizenship, then the world woudl be our oyster |
How would you get Spanish citizenship after two years? |
YOu apply, then it takes another two years to get it. Ther's a little loophole for peopel from Andean countries. |
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wiganer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Perilla wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| I realise that the pay isn't that good, BUT, the benefits would be. After two years, we could get Spanish citizenship, then the world woudl be our oyster |
How would you get Spanish citizenship after two years? |
YOu apply, then it takes another two years to get it. Ther's a little loophole for peopel from Andean countries. |
Why don't you and your husband save your money in Korea and do a MA in a Spanish university over two years and voila - Spanish citizenship after the two years - better than fartarsing for the Romanian citizenship that you are never going to get.
Two year Spanish citizenship is valid for any country that was once part of the Spanish empire - which inclues the Philippines and Equaotrial Guinea. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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| wiganer wrote: |
Why don't you and your husband save your money in Korea and do a MA in a Spanish university over two years and voila - Spanish citizenship after the two years - better than fartarsing for the Romanian citizenship that you are never going to get.
Two year Spanish citizenship is valid for any country that was once part of the Spanish empire - which inclues the Philippines and Equaotrial Guinea. |
Might do that. I certainly don't want to do another MA though, two is enough Besides, my first MA IS from Spain. And he'd have to get his BA first. Maybe he could do his BA there. Though, we'll probably have a couple kids by then. But, yes, I've looked into the possibility. I guess the major issue woudl be money. I contacted the embassy and they said we'd need about 1000usd per person per month just to get the visa. So for the two of us, that's 24K, add a kid and that's 36K.
I don't know, I'm strating to think that Asia is the best option.
What's "fartarsing" by the way? |
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wiganer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| wiganer wrote: |
Why don't you and your husband save your money in Korea and do a MA in a Spanish university over two years and voila - Spanish citizenship after the two years - better than fartarsing for the Romanian citizenship that you are never going to get.
Two year Spanish citizenship is valid for any country that was once part of the Spanish empire - which inclues the Philippines and Equaotrial Guinea. |
Might do that. I certainly don't want to do another MA though, two is enough Besides, my first MA IS from Spain. And he'd have to get his BA first. Maybe he could do his BA there. Though, we'll probably have a couple kids by then. But, yes, I've looked into the possibility. I guess the major issue woudl be money. I contacted the embassy and they said we'd need about 1000usd per person per month just to get the visa. So for the two of us, that's 24K, add a kid and that's 36K.
I don't know, I'm strating to think that Asia is the best option.
What's "fartarsing" by the way? |
Yeah, but wasn't your Spanish MA the online variety? The MA isn't important in the scheme of things - the two years residency is though and if you can do a course that can last 2-3 years then with your Peruvian citizenship - you have the Spanish-EU passport in the bag - which is more useful than Romanian-EU citizenship - where there are numerical caps implemented by the richer EU countries of how many Romanian workers they want to take in.
Hubby could do his BA over there. Thats a splendid idea! Probably would be better if he wated till he got his 2 year residency first and then he could get his course fees subsidised. It wouldn't cost all that much for you to do another MA or Phd in Spain - certainly not 36,000. Depends if you think the cost and another cerificate is worth it though?
'Fartarsing'  'Messing around with...' It is such a shame for you to be running after these Romanians who have no intention of giving you citizenship of their country - have you ever been there? Makes Peru look like Norway! Spain is your best bet!  |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Ministry of Ed, 700 euros a month? |
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Yep, online. But unless I went as a Peruvian, which I probably wouldn't, I couldn't get citizenship. My husband could. I on the other hand, am sick of studying. It's his turn. He can get the BA. Pay high prices for a bit, then after two years, get local fees.
And yes, while I agree that it might not COST 36K, every year, we have to show the embassy that we have 1K PER PERSON PER MONTH in the bank account. So if I want to study and get a one yaer visa and have my husband come, I have to go to the bank, get proof of 24K and show that to the embassy. I checked And double checked Then my husbnad checked
Hardly think Peru is like Norway. Have you been there recently? My Romanian friends say Romania is a dream compared to peru.
One last thing it's 2 years to apply, then anoterh 2 years for the process. So a total of 4 years. |
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Perilla
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Europe is becoming a very difficult place to find good work. If I were you NG I'd stick with Asia - what kind of job do you think you'd find in Europe if you had an EU passport?
I'm from the UK. I've got three degrees (a BA, an MSc and an MEd TESOL) plus plenty of work experience. If I return to the UK tomorrow I guarantee I have NO CHANCE of finding a decent job. Spain is even worse, ditto most of Europe. Unless you're a fresh grad content to live on peanuts, Europe is great for holidays but not realistic for work, unless you have rare skills or tasty contacts. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Perilla wrote: |
Europe is becoming a very difficult place to find good work. If I were you NG I'd stick with Asia - what kind of job do you think you'd find in Europe if you had an EU passport?
I'm from the UK. I've got three degrees (a BA, an MSc and an MEd TESOL) plus plenty of work experience. If I return to the UK tomorrow I guarantee I have NO CHANCE of finding a decent job. Spain is even worse, ditto most of Europe. Unless you're a fresh grad content to live on peanuts, Europe is great for holidays but not realistic for work, unless you have rare skills or tasty contacts. |
I think you're right. |
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sroetem
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NG, I think Asia is still your best bet. Stick with the uni job until you and the husband can't hack it anymore.
" My Romanian friends say Romania is a dream compared to peru. "
They sound like Koreans (Koreans that have never left the mother land) talking about Korea.
Beautiful women and a latin-based language = best thing Romania has going for it.
The EU citizenship would be a positive though. |
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naturegirl321
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| sroetem wrote: |
NG, I think Asia is still your best bet. Stick with the uni job until you and the husband can't hack it anymore.
" My Romanian friends say Romania is a dream compared to peru. "
They sound like Koreans (Koreans that have never left the mother land) talking about Korea. |
Nope, actually, most of them were expat wives. The woman who was teaching me Romanian had lived in 15 countries, most of them european and Latin american ones. trust me, they travelled. |
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Majuro
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Just to clarify in case of confusion - time spent in Spain on a student visa DOES NOT count towards citizenship requirements as students are not classified as residents. Only those holding work/residence permits may apply for citizenship and only time spent in Spain with a work/residence permit counts towards your 2 years. The first task would be to find an employer to get you a work permit but since unemployment is so high in Spain right now, it's a pretty tall order.
Those who go to work in Spain with the teaching assistantship program mentioned at the beginning of this thread are given student visas, not working visas. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Majuro wrote: |
Just to clarify in case of confusion - time spent in Spain on a student visa DOES NOT count towards citizenship requirements as students are not classified as residents. Only those holding work/residence permits may apply for citizenship and only time spent in Spain with a work/residence permit counts towards your 2 years. The first task would be to find an employer to get you a work permit but since unemployment is so high in Spain right now, it's a pretty tall order.
Those who go to work in Spain with the teaching assistantship program mentioned at the beginning of this thread are given student visas, not working visas. |
Oh darn, there goes that idea. What about time on dependent visas? Just on work permits? That stinks. Guess we'll stay in Asia! Though at least here, our kids will learn at least 3 languages. |
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