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Blingcosa · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Guangdong

Residency permit problems.

My residency permit expires on Nov 1, but my contract expires on Nov 3. What do I do?

My company are pissed off that I'm not signing another contract and have ditched them for a rival company in the same town. They will have trouble finding another teacher. They are looking for any excuse not to pay me my significant end of contract bonus (aprox 20,000RMB).

I have been given the runaround by the school - a long chain of people telling me to call other people, and a series of unanswered emails.

So what do I need to do? Can I just pay a fine at the border? Can I apply for a tourist visa to cover the remaining few days?

I am a New Zealand citizen and this is my first contract. After the contract, I'll go back to NZ for a couple of weeks and then return to work for the new company (and no my school won't transfer or extend the residency permit).

Thanks in advance.

johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

Since you are registered with the local police, tell them what's happening and see if they have any suggestions.

xiao51 · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 208

You are in Guangdong. This is easy enough. Exit to Hong Kong and get a one-month tourist visa or whatever. Or simple end the contract on November 1st. In any case, your NEW school should pick up your residence permit and renew it -- it's the easiest option.

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

Please let us know the name of the company. There are probably advertising right now for your replacement. It would be a tragedy if someone signed with them without knowing that they do not honour contracts.

Teatime of Soul · Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905

Have your RP transferred to your new employer. You need just your FEC, Passport and Letter of recommendation/release. Since it is all local, it should be easy. Your new employer can have the PSB press your old employer for cooperation if needed.

Just transfer it, not difficult at all.

seamallowance · Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:22 am Post subject:

cb400 · Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 274 Location: Vientiane, Laos

yes, please let us know. I might just have applied to that school Shocked

Blingcosa · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Guangdong

Actually, it is not so simple - they won't transfer because disgruntled.

They transfered me to Shandong, but I am registered for Shenzhen.

Not sure what I can do without the company's help.

I fully intend on telling you the name of the company and their many failings - after I've completed the contract.

If you do your homework, you won't come work here anyway. They are well known as one of the worst in China.

mrwslee003 · Joined: 14 Nov 2009 Posts: 190

You can let your new company know what your problem is and maybe they can help.

Or, just hop over to HK on a weekend and obtain a visitor's visa because you need extra days to travel.

Or, go to the local security bureau, police station, and ask them for suggestions or help to get the old company to stop holding you hostage.

Or, do all of the above!

Or, if you have a local (Chinese) friend, ask him/her for suggestions.

Just curious, did you give enough notice to the present company of your
future intentions?

Good luck.

Mister Al · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there

You could try to get all the documents you require for a Z visa (to be issued in HK) from your new employer before 3rd November. Leave your job on 3 November as agreed per your contract, hopefully with all monies you are due. Go to HK that day, you may get fined RMB1000 (RMB500 per day) or you might not. Enjoy HK and get the new Z visa and come back.

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

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askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

You don't seem to have read my post close enough.

Blingcosa · Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Guangdong

Here�s an update:

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

Why go to NZ instead of HK?

Because I needed to return to my home country for my uncle�s wedding, and if I didn�t return home, the company would only refund a one-way ticket.

Askiptochina:
I think you are missing the point. My visa runs out before my job does.

The point you make about not fighting them is very impt and I have been in China long enough to know this. I have been to great pains to try and leverage some guangxi. I presented the principal with an 18yo bottle of scotch, publicly praised the company and offered to return next year on a part-time basis.

It won over in the end. They eventually allowed me to leave 4 days early, as I had six days leave owing. They gave me my bonus too. For Askiptochina�s benefit, this consisted of a month�s pay, $1000US airfare re-imbursement and a few months outstanding class commission. I really didn�t expect them to pay up and release me early. Shows the benefit of a little honey.

So everything worked out fine?

Um, no.

Now I want to return to China, but I can�t get a Z visa.

Why?

My school are refusing to give me the reference, release letter and cancellation of foreign experts certificate.

I thought I could just return to NZ and apply for a new FEC from scratch, but no, apparently I need these bits of paper. I have asked several people (nicely) over the phone and via email for these impt documents, but so far to no avail (3 weeks later). I was supposed to start my new job on Monday, but there is still no visa in sight.

Argh!

Please help!!