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Sudz
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 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: Animal rescue or dog theives? An odd experience today... |
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On the way to work today, I witnessed two men in matching uniforms snatch a woman's dog with a long, hooked pole. The lady ran at them, screaming and flailing her arms, while the two men simply laughed and made haste towards their vehicle. They then proceeded to hurl the dog into the back of their van, which had a picture of a dog on the side, a siren on the roof, and a phone number under the picture. It LOOKED official, and there were probably an extra 4 bodies in van with matching uniforms, including the driver.
A few of the teachers I worked with seemed puzzled. One of them felt that these men were probably in the 'dog thieving business', but was hardly certain. I myself am unaware of any animal rescue (or detainment), or anything of the sort. The dog didn't look dangerous in case anyone's curious.
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hot_rock
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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interesting post, sounds sinister to be honest, because of the way the woman responded. I don't understand why thieves would dress in such a distinctive way though, surely even the VN police would be able to catch them eventually if they were to do that every day!
I ate dog last night and feel ashamed now, from what i hear it's a ridiculously cruel industry in many ways. There are certainly a lot of dogs stolen regardless of whether the uniformed people were at it.
Actually the only thing I can say it dog meat's defence is that its technically 'environmentally friendly', relative to beef!
On a serious note again i think you should speak to one of th English-langauge papers about it. Not so you can get your name in th paper but because if it is theft -in such a frightening manner, urgggghhh it actually gives me the fkin creeps- they will alert people to the practice. And if its not (quite likely actually), they will probably be as well-placed as any to shed some light on it.
Post any updates on this if u can be bothered, weird |
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tefl peasant
Joined: 09 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Animal rescue or dog theives? An odd experience today.. |
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| Sudz wrote: |
On the way to work today, I witnessed two men in matching uniforms snatch a woman's dog with a long, hooked pole. The lady ran at them, screaming and flailing her arms, while the two men simply laughed and made haste towards their vehicle. They then proceeded to hurl the dog into the back of their van, which had a picture of a dog on the side, a siren on the roof, and a phone number under the picture. It LOOKED official, and there were probably an extra 4 bodies in van with matching uniforms, including the driver.
A few of the teachers I worked with seemed puzzled. One of them felt that these men were probably in the 'dog thieving business', but was hardly certain. I myself am unaware of any animal rescue (or detainment), or anything of the sort. The dog didn't look dangerous in case anyone's curious.
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Could have been a sort of "doggie police."
As for dog (pet) theft, it does happen.
It happened to a friend of mine and his wife twice.
My friend is a foreigner, his wife a local.
In the park in District 1 (where she regularly walked her dog) 2 men stole the dog. (I don't remember the details, but they took the dog and got away.)
Then she got a phone call (obviously, the thieves had her phone number.)
They said to get her dog back she would have to pay $100.
My friend and his wife agreed, paid the $100 and got their dog back in an exchange.
Then....their dog was kidnapped for ransom a few months later in the same park, and my friend said "no," because it could possibly happen a third time.
They never saw their dog again. |
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snollygoster
Joined: 04 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:03 am Post subject: Dog napper |
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Friend of mine (Vietnamese) watched in horror as two men in unifiorm snatched her family pet of 12 years, "Fatso" from under her very eyes outside her house in the Mekong.
"Fatso" was unhappy about it as the two drove off with him struggling on a motorbike, and the vehicle stopped so the napper on the back could do something about the struggling biting dog he was trying to control.
It ended with the napper cutting Fatsos throat and as my friend yelled out at them, the throat cutter rubbed his stomach and made a "delicious" action with his tongue.
My friends response? "He was getting old and I was thinking of selling him to the butcher anyway."
On a personal note, I lived in a country town where I had a big dog-Sam. Nappers (two in POLICE iniform) tried to grab Sam but he bit one of them very savagely in the face and got away- but not before Sam had a slice taken out of his front leg- a wound that took 4 months to heal enough so he could walk reasonably well.
I never heard any more about it, but the fact the nappers were in police uniform is quite scary- Guess it was no use complaining to the police about that one, but on the other hand, who would THEY complain to about the dog biting them in those circumstances.
For those who are interested, Sam is still going strong and nobody has been game enough to try to grab him again. |
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Sudz
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Yeah many locals do consider dogs in the same category as pigs, while most of us from western countries consider them as second children. At least they don't have the same double standard as us, but WOW that throat cutting story is just savage (at least by my way of thinking.)
I'd like to know more about these police 'nappers'. Why would they want your dog? Perhaps for the same reason they'd want your motorbike? ($$$) |
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hot_rock
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| Shocking. brutal. pathetic. sinister...I could go on. If I had a dog and i caught someone in a police uniform trying to steal him I would take great pleasure in hanging him upside down, beating him (as they do to the dogs) and selling the piece of turd back to his mother for a ransom. |
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tefl peasant
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| hot_rock wrote: |
| Shocking. brutal. pathetic. sinister...I could go on. If I had a dog and i caught someone in a police uniform trying to steal him I would take great pleasure in hanging him upside down, beating him (as they do to the dogs) and selling the piece of turd back to his mother for a ransom. |
Terrible story.
There are many people who are afraid of the police, for many reasons. In particular, locals that reside in the south. |
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anubistaima
Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Thailand
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:30 am Post subject: Re: Animal rescue or dog theives? An odd experience today.. |
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[quote="tefl peasant"]
| Sudz wrote: |
It happened to a friend of mine and his wife twice.
My friend is a foreigner, his wife a local.
In the park in District 1 (where she regularly walked her dog) 2 men stole the dog. (I don't remember the details, but they took the dog and got away.)
Then she got a phone call (obviously, the thieves had her phone number.)
They said to get her dog back she would have to pay $100.
My friend and his wife agreed, paid the $100 and got their dog back in an exchange.
Then....their dog was kidnapped for ransom a few months later in the same park, and my friend said "no," because it could possibly happen a third time.
They never saw their dog again. |
Really? Your dog's life is not worth an extra $100? And also, how stupid do you have to be to have your dog stolen twice at the same park? Was the dog off the leash? I understand stolen from your yard, if you leave the animal out, but really? Either be more careful, go to a different park or keep the dog inside.
I had two dogs while I lived in Vietnam (actually, I got one IN Vietnam, at a meat market) and I was always paranoid about them being stolen. I think that's the only way your dogs are going to make it there. Thankfully, I'm in Thailand now, and my dogs are having the time of their lives here. |
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tefl peasant
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Animal rescue or dog theives? An odd experience today.. |
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[quote="anubistaima"]
| tefl peasant wrote: |
| Sudz wrote: |
It happened to a friend of mine and his wife twice.
My friend is a foreigner, his wife a local.
In the park in District 1 (where she regularly walked her dog) 2 men stole the dog. (I don't remember the details, but they took the dog and got away.)
Then she got a phone call (obviously, the thieves had her phone number.)
They said to get her dog back she would have to pay $100.
My friend and his wife agreed, paid the $100 and got their dog back in an exchange.
Then....their dog was kidnapped for ransom a few months later in the same park, and my friend said "no," because it could possibly happen a third time.
They never saw their dog again. |
Really? Your dog's life is not worth an extra $100? And also, how stupid do you have to be to have your dog stolen twice at the same park? Was the dog off the leash? I understand stolen from your yard, if you leave the animal out, but really? Either be more careful, go to a different park or keep the dog inside.
I had two dogs while I lived in Vietnam (actually, I got one IN Vietnam, at a meat market) and I was always paranoid about them being stolen. I think that's the only way your dogs are going to make it there. Thankfully, I'm in Thailand now, and my dogs are having the time of their lives here. |
I did not say it was me. Re-read my post above.
I said it was a friend of mine. His wife was walking the dog.
Being a female, there is not much a female can do, because of being physically weaker.
As for being "worth" a hundred, it was another hundred, and this may not have been the last time. |
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ajc19810
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I have also had two dogs stolen.
1st from District 8 where he was playing out the front. Two boys on a motorbike drove by and the one on the back picked up my dog in one hand.
2nd from Phan Thiet where someone entered my yard, grabbed him and drove off on a motorbike.
Both dogs were worth about 700,000 so i like to think they were sold to a good home. |
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anubistaima
Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:41 am Post subject: Re: Animal rescue or dog theives? An odd experience today.. |
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[quote="tefl peasant"]
| anubistaima wrote: |
| tefl peasant wrote: |
| Sudz wrote: |
It happened to a friend of mine and his wife twice.
My friend is a foreigner, his wife a local.
In the park in District 1 (where she regularly walked her dog) 2 men stole the dog. (I don't remember the details, but they took the dog and got away.)
Then she got a phone call (obviously, the thieves had her phone number.)
They said to get her dog back she would have to pay $100.
My friend and his wife agreed, paid the $100 and got their dog back in an exchange.
Then....their dog was kidnapped for ransom a few months later in the same park, and my friend said "no," because it could possibly happen a third time.
They never saw their dog again. |
Really? Your dog's life is not worth an extra $100? And also, how stupid do you have to be to have your dog stolen twice at the same park? Was the dog off the leash? I understand stolen from your yard, if you leave the animal out, but really? Either be more careful, go to a different park or keep the dog inside.
I had two dogs while I lived in Vietnam (actually, I got one IN Vietnam, at a meat market) and I was always paranoid about them being stolen. I think that's the only way your dogs are going to make it there. Thankfully, I'm in Thailand now, and my dogs are having the time of their lives here. |
I did not say it was me. Re-read my post above.
I said it was a friend of mine. His wife was walking the dog.
Being a female, there is not much a female can do, because of being physically weaker.
As for being "worth" a hundred, it was another hundred, and this may not have been the last time. |
Sorry, I know it wasn't you. It was a general "you" --I wasn't calling you stupid directly to your face! I was saying "how stupid you have to be" as in saying "how stupid does a person have to be." |
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tonyjones01
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My Indian friend came to the U.S. and couldn't believe how badly cows were treated 
They're dogs in a country that doesn't view them as little 'people'. If you want people do to and act like in your home country, then, go home.
Not meaning to be a jerk, but, this is their country and just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's wrong. |
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Bold As Love
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"this is their country and just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's wrong."
uhh, maybe except for physical violence and the stealing part, eh? |
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anubistaima
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| tonyjones01 wrote: |
My Indian friend came to the U.S. and couldn't believe how badly cows were treated
They're dogs in a country that doesn't view them as little 'people'. If you want people do to and act like in your home country, then, go home.
Not meaning to be a jerk, but, this is their country and just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's wrong. |
Really? So female mutilation, child prostitution and poaching elephants for their ivory is also all ok, since it's been done in "their countries" for centuries? Yay for progress. |
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Insubordination
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Very little of the great cruelty shown by men can really be attributed to cruel instinct. Most of it comes from thoughtlessness or inherited habit. The roots of cruelty, therefore, are not so much strong as widespread. But the time must come when inhumanity protected by custom and thoughtlessness will succumb before humanity championed by thought. Let us work that this time may come. ~Albert Schweitzer
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