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Part-time work in KL while studying for MA TESOL? (Lack BA).
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Part-time work in KL while studying for MA TESOL? (Lack BA). Reply with quote

Hi guys

I'll be studying at Nottingham University just outside of Kuala Lumpur next year. I have around 6 years of experience teaching mainly levels K-9, as well as a TESOL certificate. These qualifications enabled me to enter the MA TESOL program through the 'non-standard' route.

I'm currently teaching in Vietnam, and make a fairly good salary. However, I don't think my savings will allow me to study and stay for a full year (or year and a half more likely), and I'd like to find some part-time work while there (in KL).

Would someone in my position be able to find some type of work? I'm not interested in full-time.

Thanks
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KayuJati



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you should be able to find part-time work. PT work, however, does not come with a Work Permit, thus, you would probably be working illegally. (Many foreign students work....some never even attend class.)

A lot of public school teachers offer "tuition" at night, which can pay better than their public school salaries. You could advertise English tuition yourself, and being a foreigner can actually help you attract students, especially the Chinese ones. But, you would have to "teach to the syllabus" for the particular exam for which the students will sit.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply

Just out of curiosity, would someone in my position even be able to obtain a work permit?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...one I HAVE my MA TESOL, would I have reasonable job opportunities in Malaysia?
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'once I have'
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KayuJati



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudz wrote:
Also...one I HAVE my MA TESOL, would I have reasonable job opportunities in Malaysia?


Yes, with a MA in TESOL you would be able to apply at a range of schools: private colleges, college-universities, tuition centres, and maybe a few private universities. The public universities are quite politicised, but you could always try at one of those also. Less likely, however.

To obtain a work permit, you must work full time. If you are on a student visa, however, you could do some part-time work. Just realise that it will probably be against your student visa. i.e., not permitted. Some types of student visas might allow part-time work; I read about this several years ago, but one would need to confirm that.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good. So this is despite me not having a BA?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudz wrote:
Sounds good. So this is despite me not having a BA?


That's why I said that your chances were best at private colleges and not public ones. There are also quasi-public colleges run at state level. (The federal gov't here is very much more powerful than the state gov'ts, so state-run schools are treated like privates).

At public universities, they are 'cookie-cutter' in their approach. They follow the Education guidelines to the n-th degree. For example, if someone has a BS in Chemistry and an MBA in Business, then they can ONLY teach chemistry classes at the Diploma level. This happened to a colleague of mine. I know of several other cases where they are strict in enforcing the 'Got to have the same undergraduate degree as post-graduate degree' template that is archaic.

But, private schools are run for-profit and they are more concerned with what they can charge students; thus, a lecturer with a MA in TESOL looks better to fee payers than a BA in TESOL only.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to find a nice, not too expensive place to live while studying. The cost factor is making me think twice about KL...

Would PT work be obtainable in a place like Ipoh? Keep in mind, I have experience, a TESOL certificate, but NO degree.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have two posts on basically the same topic, so I will try to answer your question in this thread.

Ipoh or Taiping would both be cheaper for living expenses than KL. But, the study options will also be more limited. If you are going to study at the Nottingham University branch campus near KL, then you probably want to live near there, right?

If you want to live in Ipoh or Taiping, there are some private colleges, but their academic credentials (and degrees/diplomas/certs) will not be as highly regarded as those of Nottingham University.

It's a tradeoff. My suggestion: stick to KL. You can find cheaper lodgings on the outskirts of the bedroom communities rather than towards the high-rent city centre.
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