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oubeijin
Joined: 03 Nov 2010 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:42 am Post subject: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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Hello Everyone:
I'm currently on the JET program (save your disparaging marks), I have no real job prospects outside of the program. So before I hit the wall, and go back home to work at Best Buy, I'd like to upgrade my qualifications to find alternate source of work in Japan, kind of move up the totem pole in terms of employability. Besides going for my JLPT 1-kyu, I'm looking at universities and distant learning schools. I'm in Chiba-ken, but Tokyo is about 3 hours, so weekends are okay, but regular commuting is not.
Does anybody on here have any recommendations for:
a) University programs in around Tokyo?
b) Distant learning programs/degrees? (which ones to avoid, which ones are best)
c) Alternative/Unorthodox methods of improving my chances of finding work in Education field?
Thank you very much for any help you can provide. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu![/b]
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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oubeijin wrote: |
Hello Everyone:
I'm currently on the JET program (save your disparaging marks), and like most of the losers on here |
Uh, who exactly is that aimed at?
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So before I hit the wall, and go back home to work at Best Buy, I'd like to upgrade my qualifications to find alternate source of work in Japan, kind of move up the totem pole in terms of employability. |
"Alternate source of work" means teaching other than as a ALT, right?
What do you want to do? International school work will be out if that interests you because you need a teaching license and 2 years experience from your homeland. Any other teaching work may require nothing more than you have now, or a heckuva lot more.
Improving your languages skills will help a lot. Just be sure it includes reading/writing and not just speaking ability.
Get published.
Join a professional organization like JALT or ETJ and get started on publishing and making contacts.
I have written about certification courses in 2 places. Here is a link that will take you to both (including one here on the Cafe). http://jalthokkaido.net/blog/?p=899
I have also written a bunch of links for online degrees. Read up on them here. http://jalthokkaido.net/blog/?p=895 |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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Do you actually want to be teaching?
There're a lot of jobs outside teaching if your Japanese is up to snuff. And if you're doing 1kyuu then it probably is. Look at some of the internationals in and around Tokyo and start working on a position with one of them. They pay much more than teaching ever will.
Good luck! |
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baki
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 72
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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like most of the losers on here, I have no real job prospects outside of the program |
I would stop reading here. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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G Cthulhu wrote: |
Do you actually want to be teaching?
There're a lot of jobs outside teaching if your Japanese is up to snuff. And if you're doing 1kyuu then it probably is. |
Higher Japanese fluency is not always/usually the only thing needed, though. If you can speak/read/write well but have no relevant experience or education in that other field, that will be a severe barrier. |
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oubeijin
Joined: 03 Nov 2010 Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, sorry I'm kinda down on JET at the moment, it was a self-effacing comment, and since many of you are probably aware of the reality of being on JET, take that with a grain of salt would you? The reality of the situation is this, I'm looking to make this more than just a one (or more) year excursion in Japan. I am looking to make myself more employable here (and overall), beyond bottom rung eikaiwas, and private ALT positions.
Thank you Glenski for your comments and links, it's pretty much the type of information I am looking for.
Since I have 4 years here, I am not in a panic, but at the same time I want to be on top of things. So my transition from the JET gravy train to the "real world" is relatively painless.
I guess a better question to ask would be, in terms of obtainability, income and job security which would be a better choice:
Pursuing a job in the education field (most likely university level english teaching but not limited to that).
or pursuing a job outside of the English education field and competing against other Japanese in the labour market in Japan (my first choice would be something related to computer science) |
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Cool Teacher

Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Here, There and Everywhere! :D
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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oubeijin wrote: |
I'm currently on the JET program (save your disparaging marks), |
Congratulations!
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and like most of the losers on here |
What?!?!?!
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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Glenski wrote: |
G Cthulhu wrote: |
Do you actually want to be teaching?
There're a lot of jobs outside teaching if your Japanese is up to snuff. And if you're doing 1kyuu then it probably is. |
Higher Japanese fluency is not always/usually the only thing needed, though. If you can speak/read/write well but have no relevant experience or education in that other field, that will be a severe barrier. |
Sure, but how common is the complete lack of *any* other marketable skill? It's all in how you go about it, and I'm working on the assumption that the person has some skills other than just language. They do, after all, probably have a degree. That should have given them *some* skills.
Now, if 1kyuu *is* their *only* skill, sure, I agree with you 100%. But I don't see that being the case very often. People often have more skills than they might otherwise realize. If they're fitting the JET cliche (young, degree, etc) then they're still in a good position to go the entry level route with an international in Japan. |
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gwynnie86
Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 159
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:50 am Post subject: |
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I'll ignore the obvious comments about the way you just insulted a high percentage of the people you're asking for advice.
What's your degree in? What do you want to do?
1kyuu is a good idea.. you can also do distance learning courses, ie The Open University... if you're anything like me (and I'm with Interac, who pay less than JET for the same job, YAY) you have enough spare time to realistically do a post-graduate course while "preparing lessons"....
Within education, there are teaching/lecturing jobs at universities, a bit more prestigious than being an ALT... they're advertised on this website sometimes, have a look around and see what they ask for. |
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oubeijin
Joined: 03 Nov 2010 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: Additional info |
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So yeah,I realise that my comments caused an uproar amongst many of you on here. I deleted the comment, and just want to clarify, "losers" was referring to other JETs (namely the irresponsible ones that call in sick to go snowboarding in Nagano and their ilk)
so yeah, not a snipe at ALTs in general, just the a few of the ones I've met.
I apologise to those of you I insulted.
So if I wanted to follow the English education path in Japan after JET.
Should I pursue a masters degree? What type of masters degree would be best suited to the job? Linguistics? Education? English? others?
Could it be done through correspondence courses?
Anybody on here actually complete a masters degree while working in Japan? Are correspondence programs seen as less qualified here than say a regular university program? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading my qualifications while in Japan |
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G Cthulhu wrote: |
Glenski wrote: |
G Cthulhu wrote: |
Do you actually want to be teaching?
There're a lot of jobs outside teaching if your Japanese is up to snuff. And if you're doing 1kyuu then it probably is. |
Higher Japanese fluency is not always/usually the only thing needed, though. If you can speak/read/write well but have no relevant experience or education in that other field, that will be a severe barrier. |
Sure, but how common is the complete lack of *any* other marketable skill? |
From postings on a few other forums where people inquire about non-teaching jobs. quite common. I guess we'd have to survey Career Cross and Daijob to know more.
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It's all in how you go about it, and I'm working on the assumption that the person has some skills other than just language. They do, after all, probably have a degree. That should have given them *some* skills. |
Yes, as you know, to get on JET one must have a degree. Until the latest post by oubeijin, all we knew was that they were contemplating perhaps maybe who-can-say something related to computer science. That in no way suggests any experience in it, though.
How about it, ougeijin?
Since oubeijin's latest post, we can see that they are at least interested in an English education "path".
Answer: yes, get a master's degree. You will hardly be considered seriously with anything less. Certification would also be nice. As for what type of master's, where do you hope to work?
Many people in Japan have done correspondence/distance learning degrees. Since they don't really require all that much IMO, whether in a brick and mortar place vs. online, I don't think people are all that worried about seeming less qualified. What do the MA holders say? |
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Mr_Monkey
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 661 Location: Kyuuuuuushuuuuuuu
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:59 am Post subject: |
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I did my MA in-person, and wouldn't swap it, but that's because I was home!
I wouldn't consider a distance master's degree as any less valid; it's still a metric asston of hard work. Indeed, it has its advantages.
I guess it depends on how practical the OP wants to be - I was out drinking with some of my classmates a few weeks back, and we all agreed that while the micro-teaching components of the courses we took were useful, the absence of any assessed teaching practice of the kind undertaken on TESOL certs and national teaching qualifications was detrimental to our ability to put the ideas we were exposed to into practice. One of my friends actually took a CELTA after the MA for the practical experience it would give him. I'm not sure how feasible even micro-teaching would be on a distance course.
On the other hand, part-time distance MAs allow the student ample opportunity to try out their ideas - something that can't be underestimated. |
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