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Wanting to teach Abroad but have a few questions...

 
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Elyse88



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Wanting to teach Abroad but have a few questions... Reply with quote

Ok, so I have read and re read everyones comments but nothing seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. I want to teach english abroad in 2011, probably for Sept. I only have a 3 year College diploma (Canada) and need to know if I can get a job teaching anywhere with that? I would get the TESOL/TEFL if completely necessary before I go. I'm really intertest in China.
Also, I have been in touch with a few places and googled them but they are agencies to recruit, so I dont know the actual school. What are the odds that I can arrive in a country to a safe, reliable school? My biggest fear is getting screwed over when I arrive.

So to sum it up: Can a 3 year College Diploma get me any job?
and are these job postings reliable and legit?

Thanks so much! I appreciate the help from everyone.
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: Wanting to teach Abroad but have a few questions... Reply with quote

Elyse88 wrote:
Ok, so I have read and re read everyones comments but nothing seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. I want to teach english abroad in 2011, probably for Sept. I only have a 3 year College diploma (Canada) and need to know if I can get a job teaching anywhere with that? I would get the TESOL/TEFL if completely necessary before I go. I'm really intertest in China.
Also, I have been in touch with a few places and googled them but they are agencies to recruit, so I dont know the actual school. What are the odds that I can arrive in a country to a safe, reliable school? My biggest fear is getting screwed over when I arrive.

So to sum it up: Can a 3 year College Diploma get me any job?
and are these job postings reliable and legit?

Thanks so much! I appreciate the help from everyone.


Your 3-year diploma - I am assuming it is NOT a degree.

To get LEGAL work in China you need a degree (not just a diploma)

BUT (as with many places in Asia)

depending on where you go and who the school is connected to you CAN get work with a "Z" visa and residence permit.

Getting a TESOL certification WILL help your chances and WILL translate into more money.

As far as recruiting agencies go... the chances of landing a job in China (from abroad) without using one is slim to none.

You do have to remember what they are and more importantly what they are NOT.

They are an introduction to an employer.
They work for the school (to find warm bodies to fill positions) and NOT for you.
They are paid by the school and NOT by you (NEVER pay a recruiter anything.

They are NOT your employer.
They are NOT your friend.
They can't help you if the crud hits the fan.
After you are handed off to your school they are out of the picture.

Use as many as you need to find the best job you can with the benefits you want in the area you want at the time you want. The more you talk to the more jobs you have a chance to look at. There is no shortage of available positions in China and the demand for teachers will outstrip supply for the next decade.

One big CAVEAT:

DO NOT GO TO CHINA WITHOUT A "Z" VISA IN YOUR PASSPORT. There are lots of recruiters who will promise you the world (like any good used car salesman) but they have no means to deliver after they get your signature on the dotted line.

If they tell you to get a "tourist visa" and they promise they will get you a "Z-visa" after you get settled, look elsewhere.

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, while I personally wouldn't go to China without a Z visa now, I have before. Now I wouldn't simply becuase I'm married and my husband is my dependant. However, people have gone with L or F visas and had them changed. There have also been poeple who have been royally screwed over. check the China forum. People should help you out there.

You could teach in Indonesia and maybe China. There are other places as well. Look at the adverts and start applying. Good luck!
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smithrn1983



Joined: 23 Jul 2010
Posts: 320
Location: Moscow

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: Wanting to teach Abroad but have a few questions... Reply with quote

Elyse88 wrote:
My biggest fear is getting screwed over when I arrive.


The way to avoid this is to research any school you apply to (forums here, etc.), and to ask LOTS of questions. Moving thousands of miles overseas to a country where you most likely do not speak the language is a big decision, and good employers will understand your concern, and be happy to answer your questions. The really good ones will answer questions you didn't know to ask (like 'ovens aren't common in apartments in China').

You should also ask to contact someone currently working for the school. If the school denies this request, walk away. There's a reason they said 'no' and it's almost never a good one.
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