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What's so good about JET

 
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Skyblue2



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: What's so good about JET Reply with quote

I read a lot of posts saying JET is the way to go. I thought they paid the bog standard 250K yen, the same as everybody else. What's so good about working for them?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense, but why don't you take the time to read their pamphlet?

JET does not pay 250K. It pays 300K.
Other benefits:

paid airfare
support meetings during the year at JET conferences
a more professional setup than an eikaiwa or dispatch ALT company
many times (not always) rent is reduced or free
work hours are like that of any ALT, so you have evenings & Sat/Sun off
visa is guaranteed (no scams like some employers)
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Lyrajean



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: going to Okinawa

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JET pays the 300,000 as Glenski said, but also there are things included like legal national health insurance, any taxes due are added on top of your salary not taken from it, transportation is reimbursed.

Subsidised housing in my expereince is on the way out unless you live in the true inaka, -which is very possible. City postings are rare.

There is a support network, and your supervisors are supposed to help you get set up. the ability of the outside school support network to help with real problems can be good to not at all.

Downsides are the usual ones with ALT work, lack of responsibility or ability to change things, communication planning time with JTEs, possible boredom. You also have no contol over placement. They ask you where you would like to be but don't beleive that they look at it unless there is s good reason: sister city relationship, or spouse or family in a certain area. Plus they only take applications once a year on a strict schedule and you can only stay up to five years or as long as your school wants you, -which may be less.

There is some political BS yes, god forbid an ALT get into trouble in your ken or municipality -you might all get dragged to kencho for a lecture on not importing illegal drugs etc..., but over all there is not all that Corporate crap to deal with.
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Lyrajean



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

woops! Computer barfed... Double post....
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Skyblue2



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrajean wrote:
JET pays the 300,000 as Glenski said, but also there are things included like legal national health insurance, any taxes due are added on top of your salary not taken from it, transportation is reimbursed.


What tax rate do you guys pay?

How much would typically be deducted from someone earning 300K for health insurance?
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natsume



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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Location: Chongqing, China

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JETs net about 260,000, after taxes, health insurance, etc. (Taxes are a moot point, anyway, as already explained.) Glenski and lyrajean are about right on on the benefits, and possible downsides. I would add that the relative security, within its limitations, is very attractive to me.

There seem to be burning questions about housing in pretty much any situation, so in case you are wondering, in my situation I pay about 30,000 rent, and I live in a 教職員住宅 (educational workers building) owned by the prefectural BOE. I pay exactly the same as any of the Japanese tenants, but you could definitely say it is a subsidization, as when checked against the local suburban/borderline inaka market rate it looks to be roughly 25-30% below that. I know other teachers in other 教職員住宅 (mostly Japanese), and it seems to be the same around the prefecture.

Remember, always, again, ESID.
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Lyrajean



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Location: going to Okinawa

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyblue2 wrote:
Lyrajean wrote:
JET pays the 300,000 as Glenski said, but also there are things included like legal national health insurance, any taxes due are added on top of your salary not taken from it, transportation is reimbursed.


What tax rate do you guys pay?

How much would typically be deducted from someone earning 300K for health insurance?


You pocket 260,000 or thereabouts every month. the NHI and pension (of which you can get back 3 years worth after you leave Japan) comes out of your pay but taxes are taken care of by the office, so I have really no idea how much they are forking over, except that $$$ for municipality taxes was deposited into our accounts this summer and it was about 140,000.

Because you are a teacher the first 2 years you pay no taxes? If I remember correctly, and then it hits 3rd year, if you stay that long.
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G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrajean wrote:

You pocket 260,000 or thereabouts every month. the NHI and pension (of which you can get back 3 years worth after you leave Japan) comes out of your pay but taxes are taken care of by the office, so I have really no idea how much they are forking over, except that $$$ for municipality taxes was deposited into our accounts this summer and it was about 140,000.

Because you are a teacher the first 2 years you pay no taxes? If I remember correctly, and then it hits 3rd year, if you stay that long.


It isn't actually that consistent.

Local taxes & CO charges (think teachers social club fees which no one might think to mention) can mess things up. Even though CLAIR publishes a guide for how the CO's should calculate taxes/pay so that everyone gets the same, nett pay rates do vary quite a lot.

For example, I got 245,000 nett my first year. I know of other ALTs from NZ who were getting 265,000 work for the kencho at different schools. The reason for the difference? I had to pay into the teachers social club and they joined me up to the local teachers union. It wasn't until my second year that anyone mentioned it.

Taxes are another issue that varies by nationality. US nationals don't pay taxes in their first two years because of the US-Japan tax treaty and a special provision eliminating taxes for US nationals working in academic or research settings for their first two years in Japan. (Japanese nationals get the same benefit for one year in the US).

Everyone else, however, does pay tax from the start. That's why US JETs are cheaper to employ than, say, Brits. In theory it doesn't impact the JET: their pay is adjusted to allow for taxes (or lack thereof).
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