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bdawg



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
Posts: 526
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: cost of living in China Reply with quote

Howdy folks,

Newbie teacher here, out exploring possible teaching locations. What are the prices like in China? Rent, food, beer...stuff like that.

Thanx!
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nolefan



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 1458
Location: on the run

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:46 am    Post subject: prices Reply with quote

howdy,

Just like everywhere else in the world, prices in China vary accordingly to your location. As a general rule, it is a hell of a lot cheaper to live here than in most other countries.

Foreign goods will be similar pricewise to what you see back home but the local stuff is dirt cheap.

a pair of glove: 12RMB on the street, 25RMB in the shop
a bottle of 2 L coke: 5 RMB
Campow Chicken at the restaurant: 10-12 RMB
a bowl of noodles : 2-6 RMB

a bottle of Stoly vodka 90 RMB at the store
a bottle of black Label: 180 RMB

beer is usually about 2 or 3 RMB /bottle

use the search button as this has been discussed many times over in the forums]
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Kitegirl



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Posts: 101
Location: Lugdunum Batavorum

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude - brace yourself. People are going to jump your case big time for this Q. You may not new to teaching but check out the Newbie Forum anyway - the second announcement is - "Before you post" and reads:

"Has somebody else already asked your question? There's a good chance that, whatever you want to know, somebody has already asked about it. Have a browse through this forum and the General Discussions forum before you post, just to make sure you aren't duplicating somebody else's question."

I spent a few weeks dissecting all the relevant threads, and did dozens of searches before my first posting. To help you on your way - "cost + living + China" = 75 hits, "cost + China" = 234 hits, "prices + China" = 87 hits. And that's just a sample. Good luck with your research.
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, better post on the Newbie forum because on this forum here we don't expect questions such as "how much is rent?" in a country where employers by law must house you (and in most cases do house you).
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bdawg



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
Yeah, better post on the Newbie forum because on this forum here we don't expect questions such as "how much is rent?" in a country where employers by law must house you (and in most cases do house you).


ahh...do I sense a little bit of elitism?????

Sorry for wasting your posting time


Thank you to the previous posters for your help
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kimo



Joined: 16 Feb 2003
Posts: 668

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rent? Well, if you are a newbie that could be a problem so don't come down on Roger and the others for not giving you the answers you want. Pouncing on newbies is a time-honored tradition at Daves. If you are sulking now before arrival, I just can't imagine you a short while after your arrival. Anyway, certain visas are required to live here legally and work. All that information exists on these pages.

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ahh...do I sense a little bit of elitism?????

Sorry for wasting your posting time


We are by no means elite. Actually, we, here in China, are on the bottom of the rung, except for those in Korea of course.

As for wasting our time, we do enough of that on our own. Thanks for your concern though.

China is generally cheap if you compare it to home. But, a little surprise might be that some organization that does such things rated Beijing as one of the most expensive cities in the world. Obviously, I am missing something really good here.

Before you consider prices, consider the salary you will make. That generally falls around 3K-5K and could go a lot higher. Rent in a nice place in Beijing goes from 2,000 - 10,000, but if you are working on a Z visa, as you were told, your employer is required to provide it for you. You will have little say in that matter. Beer is cheap at little shops, about 2 RMB. In clubs, it's 10 or 20 times that. Girlfriends are considerably higher.
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batman



Joined: 12 Oct 2003
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Location: china

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am elite. and i know where to get a 40 oz of vodka alot cheaper than the 26ers or 'stoly' that you all buy at carrefour. i was gonna tell you all, but some things are better kept secret. the same store has the best selection of cheese ive ever seen in one place in beijing. ha ha ha. im drunk and eating cheese. i love china.
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nolefan



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: where Reply with quote

Batman...

shame on you for keeping such a secret! I am half french and I am craving cheese as we speak. Since Beijing is only 2 hours away from her, I can squeeze a trip there and load up on necessities if you could only let me know where to get it...

please, pretty please, with a cherry on top Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Very Happy Very Happy
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batman



Joined: 12 Oct 2003
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Location: china

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just dont want millions of laowei flocking to this little store and looting it, and hicking the prices. its cheap, and obviously meant for certain expats, who are not american or english speaking. there is not even a sign...and the restaurant next to it sells steak dinners for 30 kwai. suckers! if u have ever gone to outback i pity u! pm me, and i might spill it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:22 pm    Post subject: COST OF LIVING IN CHINA Reply with quote

AS I LIVE AT MY SCHOOL, I DO NOT PAY RENT, BUT I HAVE FOUND THAT MOST THINGS IN CHINA A VERY CHEAP, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HOTELS AND POSTAGE (AIR MAIL) HOME TO AUSTRALIA.

AS I DO NOT DRINK (MUCH) OR SMOKE, I COULD EASILY LIVE ON 1,000 YUAN PER MONTH IF I WANTED TO SAVE MONEY.

OF COURSE, IN MY CASE I CANNOT DO THAT AS THE ORPHANAGE TAKES MOST OF MY MONEY EACH MONTH - WHICH I AM HAPPY ABOUT. I ACTUALLY SPEND MORE EACH MONTH THAN I EARN.

SO, BASICALLY, IF YOU SET YOUR MIND TO IT, YOU COULD SAVE AT LEAST 3/4 OF YOUR SALARY - IF YOU DID NOT GO OUT PARTYING A FEW NIGHTS A WEEK. I THINK IF YOU LIVED IN (SAY) SHANGHAI, IT WOULD BE HARDER TO SAVE MONEY AS I HAVE NOTICED THAT TAXIS, FOOD, ETC. ARE DEARER IN THE BIGGER CITIES THAN OUT HERE.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR LIFESTYLE I THINK. IF YOU ARE COMING TO CHINA TO SAVE, I SUGGEST THAT YOU TAKE ONE OF THE HIGHER PAYING POSITIONS (HIGHER BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT FROM THE CITIES AND ARE NOT POPULAR WITH MOST YOUNG PEOPLE). THAT WAY YOU WILL EARN MORE AND BE LESS TEMPTED TO SPEND IT ALSO.
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Gonzo



Joined: 08 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

High salaries/low salaries?
Several factors here.
* Prestige. "Famous" universities pay little, as they're doing you a favor letting you in. The amount of work you do there is minimal; its expected you'll make that up privately, trading on the name of the institution.
* Many places want some tame laowais to attract customers. They pay peanuts, get people who are there for the experience of China more than anything else, give them short hours, and everyone's happy. Nowt wrong with that.
* Places that have a genuine demand for native speakers with qualifications that can justify calling them "teachers". They tend to get worked pretty hard, but are paid above average...for that province or city, that is.

Having worked long and hard at getting qualifications and experience, I can't really subscribe to the belief that anyone can teach. Standing in front of a class and keeping them docile/active/amused is another matter, but it's not teaching.
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Posts: 5880
Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to send a fourth of my salary home every month and then I can free spend the rest without feeling too guilty.

Although I don't LOVE my school (and really, would there be a school in China I LOVE? I'm just doing this whole China thing as a "life experience" - I'll be over it after another year here), I like it well enough that I asked for a contract renewal for one more year. Normally, they only give a raise of 500 rmb per month for a new contract, but I asked for MUCH more than my current salary, so they gave me a 1k rmb pay hike. PLUS: I still get my own, free, private apartment, utilities, tv/dvd, ADSL internet, phone service, 3 free meals, free health care, and a host of other nice things. So, I'm hoping that extra thou will help me save more money while still enjoying going out to eat and shopping from time to time.
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woza17



Joined: 25 May 2003
Posts: 602
Location: china

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, no one is being elite but we just suggest to go on the Newbie forum or PM some patient kind people. I must say that some of the above posters can sound, at times a little bit abrupt. and I say, shame on them .
PM me I have a lot of time and patience.
Cheers carol
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