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alijean
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
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Location: Australia
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 Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: Diploma |
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Heya,
I mentioned it in the Thailand forum, but my question also applies to teaching in China, Vietnam, Taiwan and Japan.
Does anyone have any info on the credibility of a College Diploma? In Australia a Diploma is only a step down from a degree and still takes 2-3 years to complete full-time because it's tertiary study. So is a Degree the be all and end all? Or can my diploma and TESOL certificate provide me with the adequate qualifications to teach in Asia without getting screwed over? Any further advice would be greatly appreciated  |
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GeminiTiger
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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Location: China, 2005--Present
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Japan requires a degree inorder to get the 1yr working visa.
China and Taiwan are rapidly initiating steps to make a BA/BS
degree required as well for the 1yr visa. |
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Indiana Jones
Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Many people with degrees and PhDs get screwed over by employers, so you needn't worry about it!
You can definitely work legally in China with a diploma and/or TESOL certificate. The Chinese consulate in Melbourne confirmed this for me. The whole if-you-don't-have-a-degree-then-you're-illegal argument is complete rubbish. It only seems to be uptight foreign teachers who want to monopolise the market in China who seem to be so obsessed with having a degree and a masters and a phd and a golden handshake from the president of the united states.  They seem to think that having a degree makes you a better teacher, which is utter rubbish of course.
Okay, I'm going to shut-up now. I rant about the degree-or-no-degree thing too much. 
You can also get work in Japan teaching oral english. The Instructor Visa was introduced last September. It's for people who are 31 and over, but don't have a degree and want to work as an oral english teacher/aide. If you can line up a job then you can get this visa. It's very hard to get a job this way, but it's not impossible. Same for CHina. I've spoken to both country's consulates and immigration.
Me -- I have a Diploma of Arts: Professional Writing & Editing. I also have a TESOL certificate. I can get work as an oral english teacher in China with these qualifications no worries, I just have to apply. The only way I won't get a job is if I don't apply!
That's the key. Just apply for jobs, and if it's meant to be, it's meant to be ...  |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Indiana Jones wrote: |
| MYou can also get work in Japan teaching oral english. The Instructor Visa was introduced last September. It's for people who are 31 and over, but don't have a degree and want to work as an oral english teacher/aide. If you can line up a job then you can get this visa. It's very hard to get a job this way, but it's not impossible. Same for CHina. I've spoken to both country's consulates and immigration. |
Your information is incorrect. Instructor is for anyone who has 'graduated from university or college' or has an equivalent qualification to a degree.Instructor visas are basically available to anyone with a degree or has 3 years of certified ESL or teaching experience.
You can line up a job but you have to get an employer here to agree to sponsor you. With no sponsor you can not get a visa and with no degree and no visa you are S-O-L.
I have already had one person who has seen your post, believing he has a chance of getting a job here with a 2 year diploma and have set him straight on the immigration requirements. You need a legal visa (it doesnt have to be a teaching visa but you must be allowed to work here on that visa e.g. spouse visa).
A 1-year or a 2-year diploma doesnt cut any mustard with Japanese immigration here. |
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