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jippy85



Joined: 11 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject: visa extension has become a real problem, can anyone help Reply with quote

hiya folks,

i'm new to the forum, so i'm hoping someone has come up against the problem. ok here's the scenario

1. arrived in Hanoi and got 1 month visa on arrival

2. toured through vietnam and arrived in HCMC

3. went to extend my visa and have been told, because its issued in Hanoi that i can only get a 1 month extension

4.my visa runs out 15th feb (places all close over tet) so have to wait until 8th feb to get definitive answer

5.been told by one company i can get a business visa issued in HCMC for $85 which gives me 3 months

4.been told by another company if i do the visa run to cambodia, i can simply do the 1 month extention and drive back, then another company told me you have to go into cambodia (wait a week ) then leave.

5. i then have to pay for an extention on the 1month visa that they will issue in HCMC merely a week after i've just paid for the 1 months visa

the whole process is going to cost me the guts of $180 upwards

my question:
what in gods name should i do?, i'm on a limited budget and this is going to take a chunk from it.
has anyone got the business visa? what does it mean? and should i trust them.
does anyone know the latest with the cambodia visa run??

this has really got me down, and i would almost leave on principle of such a badly run system. shafting tourists for every cent they have (rant complete)

i will buy anyone who can help me the biggest pile of beer/ wine known to man
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shanewarne



Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pack your bags, get on a plane and never look back. Good luck!
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Danaa



Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: visa extension has become a real problem, can anyone hel Reply with quote

jippy85 wrote:
hiya folks,

i'm new to the forum, so i'm hoping someone has come up against the problem. ok here's the scenario

1. arrived in Hanoi and got 1 month visa on arrival

2. toured through vietnam and arrived in HCMC

3. went to extend my visa and have been told, because its issued in Hanoi that i can only get a 1 month extension


Vietnam only wants tourists to stay for a brief time, spend their $$$, and then leave.

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4.my visa runs out 15th feb (places all close over tet) so have to wait until 8th feb to get definitive answer

5.been told by one company i can get a business visa issued in HCMC for $85 which gives me 3 months

4.been told by another company if i do the visa run to cambodia, i can simply do the 1 month extention and drive back, then another company told me you have to go into cambodia (wait a week ) then leave.

5. i then have to pay for an extention on the 1month visa that they will issue in HCMC merely a week after i've just paid for the 1 months visa

the whole process is going to cost me the guts of $180 upwards


As usual, nobody really knows what's going on, except to know how to ask you for more, more, and more, money.

Quote:

my question:
what in gods name should i do?


Leave this cesspool, for better places.
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haller_79



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vietnam and SE Asia in general should be a 'working holiday', somewhere you go with plenty of money and do PT teaching to subsidize when necessary, I think the OP's predicament illustrates this, good luck anyway and remember it's ok to leave.
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ajc19810



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't agree more Haller, a working holiday is exactly what Vietnam is for and pretty much ESL in general.
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Oh My God



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: visa extension has become a real problem, can anyone hel Reply with quote

jippy85 wrote:

3. went to extend my visa and have been told, because its issued in Hanoi that i can only get a 1 month extension



5.been told by one company i can get a business visa issued in HCMC for $85 which gives me 3 months



#3 - This is, in fact, the law. A Visa issued in one place must be renewed/extended in the same place.

However, the enforcement is many times an entirely different story

#5 - This would a solid first step and the price isn't outrageous

There are MANY things you have to learn here! Good Luck!
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Oh My God



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: visa extension has become a real problem, can anyone hel Reply with quote

jippy85 wrote:

3. went to extend my visa and have been told, because its issued in Hanoi that i can only get a 1 month extension



5.been told by one company i can get a business visa issued in HCMC for $85 which gives me 3 months



#3 - This is, in fact, the law. A Visa issued in one place must be renewed/extended in the same place and at the same increments.

However, the enforcement is many times an entirely different story

#5 - This would be a solid first step and the price isn't outrageous

There are MANY things you have to learn here! Good Luck!
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LettersAthruZ



Joined: 25 Apr 2010
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Location: North Viet Nam

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, this is TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND BASED ON WHAT "KNOWLEDGEABLE SOURCES" (e.g. - law enforcement, Immigration employees, etc.) HAVE TOLD ME -

(but, this could all change by next week....hey - T.I.V.)

Now, I HAVE heard of places in HCMC that do three-month visa renewals for under $100USD. More information on these places (I forgot some of the names I have read) can be found in this Vietnam forum here on Dave's.

THIS, truthfully, is your best bet - getting a three-month business visa, for under $100USD in HCMC.

The B-3/Business visa basically means nothing. Literally. It just lets you stay in the country. It DOES NOT entitle you to teach in Vietnam NOR to open your own business or anything of the sort....actually, I'm not sure WHAT exactly differentiates it from a C-class Tourist visa!

Alternatively, you can fly-out/fly-in (Bangkok and K.L. are the cheapest flights) and grab a THREE-month visa-on-arrival....but this gets pricey.

Now, WHAT I HAVE HEARD is that you can do an OVERLAND visa run, but they WILL NOT GIVE YOU ANYTHING LONGER THAN 30 DAYS (as opposed to 90 days on a fly-out/fly-in visa-on-arrival). I do not know if this is true, (having never left Vietnam overland myself), so see if you can get accurate information about this.

Finally....good luck - just might not be a bad idea after all to catch the next one-way flight outta here to Anywhere Else, as other posters have mentioned!
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jippy85



Joined: 11 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:53 am    Post subject: big big thanks Reply with quote

hmm
the business visa seems like the route i shall try, i can't seem to track down the company's that can be used to get it on the forum. but i did manage to find on the streets. its called " hoang linh tour" has anyone had any dealings with them? i'm going back after TET to get the visa sorted but will avoid if they are dodgy.

does anyone know any company's in HCMC that will do the 3 month business visa??
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DNK



Joined: 22 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Know a place that does $35 for a single 3mo renewal in HCMC. It's the multi-entries that put the price up there. If you don't plan on leaving for 3mo, it's a good deal.

What's the deal with number of extensions now? I've finished two and will come up on #3 in another couple of months, so I want to start looking into alternatives soon if I run out of extensions for the 3mo.
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JHat



Joined: 29 Sep 2010
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Location: HCMC, Vietnam

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the exact same situation as you: flew into Hanoi, got my visa issued at the airport, and had to get it extended it in HCMC a few months later. They say it's a pain because they need to send your passport back to Hanoi, but there are ways to do it from HCMC.

I went to this travel agency: http://flightravelco.com/Documents/map.JPG

They charged me $65 to get a single entry, 3-month visa extension. It took a week. They also speak really good English and can explain the whole deal to you. I'd recommend you go there, they're reliable, it will save you the time and cost of doing a border run too.

Good luck!
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jippy85



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: big thank you!! Reply with quote

what can i say, the advice has been really helpful. i will try and find the place after TETand let you know what happens.

thanks once again!!
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JHat



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing..

If you're running out of time after Tet (you said your Visa expires on Feb 15th), I'm pretty sure that as long as you submit your visa extension application before that date you are fine, even if it takes a week to process and you get your passport back after the 15th. No one really checks your visa expiry anyways, unless you're at the border or apply for a job.
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DNK



Joined: 22 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I ran up on a deadline, put the application in 12 hours before expiry and all was fine when I got it back 10 days later. Of course, it's a gray area, and I wouldn't recommend doing it if it can be avoided.
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jippy85



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:20 am    Post subject: the grey area regarding 3 month visa & work permit Reply with quote

now, firstly i don't want to start a big arguement on this one as i'm finding out, there are 16 ways ways to do everything in this country. anyho here go's.

basically, i'm badly unprepared regarding the paperwork side of things relating to the work permit so i don't think i have the time or money to send my degree home (then notarized) then UK police check which will undoubtly get lost in the post system etc... i've talked to a few english teachers and not one of them have had a work permit and have been here for sometime.

i know this isn't the ideal situation, but is it possible to still apply for positions & working while only having a business visa? almost blagging it i suppose.
yes i can get in trouble if caught, but my only other choice is to go home (which i really really don't want to do)
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