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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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 Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:04 am Post subject: new Criminal record search (CRC) for Thailand |
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the title says it... and the old threads were ambiguous at best.
Do I need to get a new CRC / CBC to work in Thailand (legally)?
Is is a requirement to get a non-immigrant "B" visa or work permit?
I am coming from Korea (where it is a requirement) so it is not a problem other than the time involved in getting one but if I need one then I need to know so I can order it soon.
If it is needed, does it need an embassy/consulate certification or notarization?
I am Canadian so we don't do apostile (not a treaty member).
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Gypsy King
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Yes you do need to get a new CRC to work in the LOS legally and to get a work permit under the new laws. Also remember you will need some money..MOD EDIT to get through the work visa process etc. Thailand is becoming a very expensive destination to teach even though it pays English teachers probably the lowest EFL wages in Asia. Good luck!  |
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MaiPenRai
Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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Location: BKK
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I beleive it is technically required to get a work permit (done in Thailand after you have your Visa and a job). The majority of embassies/consulates (Visa) don't ask for a criminal check. It doesn't need to be apostilled, but that could always change.
You can get a criminal check done in Bangkok for about $10. It is accepted for work permit purposes in Thailand. It takes about 20 minutes to do and about 2-4 weeks to process. PM me if you want info on where and how to do this. |
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exu156
Joined: 27 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Please help! Would love some information on where to go in Bangkok to get a criminal record check. |
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Pauleddy
Joined: 19 Mar 2006
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Location: The Big Mango
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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When I first came here from the UK, I was told to get a check made, but nobody HERE (police, school, uni, immig) ever asked for one.
I would be very interested in knowing to whom I could pay 10usd here in BKK for a check, as a Limey with no record. MOD EDIT Or will someone actually contact Scotland Yard (cheap!)?
Or does it mean that the local sergeant in brown gets tea-money for saying that Eddy never did nuffin in LOS?
Do the schools now ask for this because of the swirly man? But the unis not, despite the short skirts and tight pants of my freshmen who are only children, barely 18?
Yours confused as usual
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mdoor
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Please help! Would love some information on where to go in Bangkok to get a criminal record check. |
Royal Thai Police Headquarters
Police Clearance Service Center - Building 24, Rama 1, Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330. Telephone: 02-205-2168.
Last edited by mdoor on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:43 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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NigerianWhisper
Joined: 21 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Internal police certificates are obtained from the Royal Thai Police, Special Branch.
It is a very painless process. Can't remember the exact cost but around 4-500 baht I think? Took about 2 weeks before I went back to collect.
Royal Thai Police in Bangkok.
Get off the BTS at Chitlom and walk about 6 blocks. The Royal Police are located next to the Royal Police Hospital.
The building number you need to look for is 24. (Last time I went) |
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Dave_1
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| NigerianWhisper wrote: |
Internal police certificates are obtained from the Royal Thai Police, Special Branch.
It is a very painless process. Can't remember the exact cost but around 4-500 baht I think? Took about 2 weeks before I went back to collect.
Royal Thai Police in Bangkok.
Get off the BTS at Chitlom and walk about 6 blocks. The Royal Police are located next to the Royal Police Hospital.
The building number you need to look for is 24. (Last time I went) |
Thanks for that information. In Vietnam you have get a print out from the UK consulate to get a work visa. My reading of this is that I don't need to do that in Bangkok, instead just go to the address you state. Or are there different requirements at different types of schools? |
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MaiPenRai
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I have heard from a few people that you can no longer get a CRC at the Royal Thai Police and that it is no longer a requirement for the work permit. Anyone got up to date info?
BTW Eddy, I belive that they just used to check the record in Thailand and on major International channels (Interpol). |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| MaiPenRai wrote: |
I have heard from a few people that you can no longer get a CRC at the Royal Thai Police and that it is no longer a requirement for the work permit. Anyone got up to date info?
BTW Eddy, I belive that they just used to check the record in Thailand and on major International channels (Interpol). |
I brought "legalized" copies and the originals from home as well as my past country of residence.
I was asked for neither to obtain my "B" visa and work permit. I entered on a 30 day tourist stamp and applied for the visa change and work permit in BKK.
I do know for a fact that it is a requirement if applying for a "B" visa as a teacher (which is why I brought them) from a Thai consulate or embassy in North America. I don't know about applying for a "B" visa from other countries.
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pest2
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as if getting jacked over each time you have to do a visa run to get a non B, visa extension, medical check, work permit, and, err... what am I forgetting... Now you have to pay even more to get some other BS thing. To put it into perspective, getting all squared away in Korea will cost like 60$, but probably nothing since your school will pay anyway. Taiwan, about the same but usually you have to pay. China, same...Thailand, you're talking like 300$ for one package work visa, non b, etc etc... and here in LOS, you're lucky to make 1200$ a month.
BTW, this is my last week here in the land of fake smiles  |
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NigerianWhisper
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BTW, this is my last week here in the land of fake smiles |
Bon voyage! Byeeeeeeee! Sawatdee khrab!
You will surely be missed............by someone...............somewhere.
Or perhaps not. |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| pest2 wrote: |
as if getting jacked over each time you have to do a visa run to get a non B, visa extension, medical check, work permit, and, err... what am I forgetting... Now you have to pay even more to get some other BS thing. To put it into perspective, getting all squared away in Korea will cost like 60$, but probably nothing since your school will pay anyway. Taiwan, about the same but usually you have to pay. China, same...Thailand, you're talking like 300$ for one package work visa, non b, etc etc... and here in LOS, you're lucky to make 1200$ a month.
BTW, this is my last week here in the land of fake smiles |
Korea costs you substantially more now that you need an apostille on your national CBC and degree certifications (at your expense).
Then add the $60 visa fee, medical (with x-rays, blood work and tox screening), ARC and visa run to Japan when necessary.
In the LOS I paid for nothing more than the air tickets to Thailand and the visa cost for my wife and kid (b4000). The school paid for my medical (30 baht), visa change (b2000), extension (b1900), work permit, and ALL other expenses related to staying employed in the LOS.
Me thinks you got the short end of the stick but I hope you are successful in your next country.
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pest2
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
| pest2 wrote: |
as if getting jacked over each time you have to do a visa run to get a non B, visa extension, medical check, work permit, and, err... what am I forgetting... Now you have to pay even more to get some other BS thing. To put it into perspective, getting all squared away in Korea will cost like 60$, but probably nothing since your school will pay anyway. Taiwan, about the same but usually you have to pay. China, same...Thailand, you're talking like 300$ for one package work visa, non b, etc etc... and here in LOS, you're lucky to make 1200$ a month.
BTW, this is my last week here in the land of fake smiles |
Korea costs you substantially more now that you need an apostille on your national CBC and degree certifications (at your expense).
Then add the $60 visa fee, medical (with x-rays, blood work and tox screening), ARC and visa run to Japan when necessary.
In the LOS I paid for nothing more than the air tickets to Thailand and the visa cost for my wife and kid (b4000). The school paid for my medical (30 baht), visa change (b2000), extension (b1900), work permit, and ALL other expenses related to staying employed in the LOS.
Me thinks you got the short end of the stick but I hope you are successful in your next country.
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I know at least 8 other people here in several different schools over all their time here. The norm here in Thailand is to pay all the visa expenses yourself and maybe get some of it back after you complete the contract. The norm is not to make 60,000 baht unless you are a certified teacher working at an international school (its you?) The norm is to make about 30,000 baht. Like I said in another post, dont take my word for it, go to some of the Thailand job websites and see for yourself... I will personally pay you 100 baht for every job you find advertised and is hiring now, that pays more than 60,000 baht. If you find such a job that actually pays that much with a mere bachelors degree and no teaching cert, I will pay you 1000 baht. Take it to the bank!
About visa fees to Korea, I'm finding that most schools in Korea pay for all of it except the apostilles and police checks in my state. The schools pay the med check expenses, generally. 60$ is what it will cost to get the apostilles and police checks. And 60$ = about 2000 baht, and thats what you pay for a Non-B visa, without extension, alone. Tack on 100$ to get a work permit, another 60$ for a Non-B extension, and 60$ to get a medical check, and you're talking well over 200$ you will almost always have to pay in Thailand vs 60$ in Korea. And in Korea, you make 3x more..hmm... And I dont know if you got the short end of the stick when you were in Korea, but when I did a visa run to Osaka, my school paid for the whole thing including hotel, airticket, and meals. In short, a free trip to Japan. Here in Thailand, the schools wont even pay for a crappy bus ride to Cambodia and a plate of food-poisoned chicken.
I think it's great you got a good gig here (not that kind of gig). Just thinking its probably not correct to generalize your situation to everyone else's. The stick is almost all short end and nearly no long end. |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| pest2 wrote: |
I know at least 8 other people here in several different schools over all their time here. The norm here in Thailand is to pay all the visa expenses yourself and maybe get some of it back after you complete the contract. The norm is not to make 60,000 baht unless you are a certified teacher working at an international school (its you?) The norm is to make about 30,000 baht. Like I said in another post, dont take my word for it, go to some of the Thailand job websites and see for yourself... I will personally pay you 100 baht for every job you find advertised and is hiring now, that pays more than 60,000 baht. If you find such a job that actually pays that much with a mere bachelors degree and no teaching cert, I will pay you 1000 baht. Take it to the bank!
About visa fees to Korea, I'm finding that most schools in Korea pay for all of it except the apostilles and police checks in my state. The schools pay the med check expenses, generally. 60$ is what it will cost to get the apostilles and police checks. And 60$ = about 2000 baht, and thats what you pay for a Non-B visa, without extension, alone. Tack on 100$ to get a work permit, another 60$ for a Non-B extension, and 60$ to get a medical check, and you're talking well over 200$ you will almost always have to pay in Thailand vs 60$ in Korea. And in Korea, you make 3x more..hmm... And I dont know if you got the short end of the stick when you were in Korea, but when I did a visa run to Osaka, my school paid for the whole thing including hotel, airticket, and meals. In short, a free trip to Japan. Here in Thailand, the schools wont even pay for a crappy bus ride to Cambodia and a plate of food-poisoned chicken.
I think it's great you got a good gig here (not that kind of gig). Just thinking its probably not correct to generalize your situation to everyone else's. The stick is almost all short end and nearly no long end. |
Just looked and the vast majority that I saw for anyone with a BA and some experience or a TEFL cert are paying 35-45k per month, as well as paying visa fees and work permit.
I admit that you need real certifications (and experience) or post grad work AND experience to land the best jobs but hey, just cause you are working is no reason to stop your professional development.
Where on earth did you do that your required medical cost you $60 (mine was 30 baht - but it was in Thai and done at the local hospital).
The $60 for the non-immi "B" and the extra $60 for the extension were paid for by the school (and most of the ads on the competition website also offered to pay these expenses as well as the work permit and extension).
If you are qualified you don't even need to do a visa run to change from tourist to non-immi "B". You can do it at the immigration office in BKK. One day service - 2000 baht for the change and then return for the extension after you get your work permit.
Net cost to me was my airfare to Thailand.
Most of the ads on ajarn were similar with the exception that basic EFL jobs were about 25% lower in the starting salary bracket.
Oh, and I wasn't doing that bad in Korea either (PS position, 3m per month (gross) + the usual benefits.
End of the month, the savings and quality of life are similar between here and Korea but here I get twice the vacation time and less stress from my overworked Korean co-teacher.
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