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dynow



Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:10 am    Post subject: The boat's leaving for Dynow.... Reply with quote

Plane tickets are bought, January 6th my wife and I are outta here!

It's been a loooooooooong 4 years in Poland. Learned a lot not only about other cultures but about myself as well. It's gonna be great to be back home.

I'd like to thank everyone that has helped me along the way on Dave's, especially in the beginning. Poland's not an easy place to live and with the advice I received here, it made it all a teeny bit easier Wink

I can't promise I'm going to be on here very often once I leave Poland, a lot of the things that I don't like in Poland I probably won't really want to think about once I'm gone, but I'll do my best to peak in here every so often in case someone needs advice on paperwork or something Very Happy

Take care everyone and remember......vodka with pepper does NOT prevent illness when vacationing in Egypt!

Dynow
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Master Shake



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bon voyage!

Thanks for all the advice you gave me, yea, especially the early stuff - I think we came to Poland about the same time, the end of '06.

I hope you enjoy it back home. But honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to find you pining for Polska after a few months...years.

I know I did.

-Shake
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a feeling you will be back.

I noticed a big change in the US when I was gone.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, there ain't a chance in hell I'm ever moving back to Poland.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck in your future! It was nice to read your posts and exchange pleasantries and banter from time-to-time:)

I've been out of Poland for almost 6 months now, and I do still think about the place occasionally and actually miss some things about it, but I also doubt I'll ever live there again.

Then again,life has taught me one valuable thing:never say never!

Cheers and Happy New Year!
Jack
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dynow, happy 2011 to you - and may your return to the homeland meet all your best expectations Very Happy
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dynow



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack walker wrote:

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and I do still think about the place occasionally and actually miss some things about it


i can't help but wonder what i would miss about Poland.

Today I started throwing out old useless paperwork. Man oh man the amount of paperwork I accumulated over my 4 years here. Just amazing. It's so nice to think how i will never get another letter from Urzad Skarbowy, ZUS or any other insanely bureaucratic agency out here ever again. Having absolutely no ties to Poland by way of documentation is a great feeling.

I have my fingers crossed that the airports will be up and running and the flight goes smoothly.

Well, off to do some more packing!
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Blasphemer



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so long...
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blaz88



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: same boat Reply with quote

I feel my ship will be sailing back to Canada as well in 2011. I have been in Poland over 5 years, although, not consecutively. My time in Wroclaw is just over 3 years and I have noticed my income become lower every year since 2007-08. I have most my classes organised through my own contacts in companies, with a few hours arranged through a private school. Since October of 2010, I have been on 7-9 hours a week. I have applied everywhere, the school where I have a conection has nothing as well. In fact, the school told me they had 3 maybe responses out of 300 offers to companies. I myself sent out 100 emails to companies and received one maybe. I am lucky that my wife works her ass off for peanuts in a international company in Wroclaw. At the end of the day, its no place to plan a future or think about having any retirement funds. I love Europe but money is power and when I can rent a bigger apartment in Canada for the same rent as in Wroclaw, it makes no sence to be here any longer. Not to mention all the B.S. I have experinced over the years, Socially isolated is the feeling I get as I had 2 vacations in Canada in 2010 and really miss regular conversations with friends. One thing over in Poland I really notice when trying to shoot the shit with a Polish guy. No matter what their age or occupation, they speak like they are an authority on every topic. I have seen this on various levels, I was a head coach for 3 years in Wroclaw, coached both division 1 teams in this city. A week ago I told myself that if I didn't pick up a major new contract in January that I should think about moving back. Now I feel I should be planning the move regardless, even with full time teaching, what is that maybe 1700 dollars a month. Not something to be excited about, especially when every f____- thing is more expensive every year here. I don't plan on sitting in a box rotting away my life.
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JPM



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the time or place for griping.


Dynow, from one old hand to another (6th year in Krakow now), good luck to ya! I can't remember now but I'm sure we've exchanged various gems in the past. I'm also off this year, taking a year off, somewhere warm where there's no snow on the ground!

Cheers, pal.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
jack walker wrote:

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and I do still think about the place occasionally and actually miss some things about it


i can't help but wonder what i would miss about Poland.

Today I started throwing out old useless paperwork. Man oh man the amount of paperwork I accumulated over my 4 years here. Just amazing. It's so nice to think how i will never get another letter from Urzad Skarbowy, ZUS or any other insanely bureaucratic agency out here ever again. Having absolutely no ties to Poland by way of documentation is a great feeling.

I have my fingers crossed that the airports will be up and running and the flight goes smoothly.

Well, off to do some more packing!






It's funny that you mentioned the amount of paperwork which you accumulated during your time in Poland.

I accumulated more papers and documents there in 7 years, than I did in 28 years or so in Canada.

When I left Poland last summer,I had enough papers to fill the insides of a small car...seriously.

Luckily, a business owning student of mine had a big paper shredder for his company and was kind enough to shred them for me over a period of several months before my departure.

I was giving him pretty much a suitcase full of documents weekly for about 6 weeks!

Madness!
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sharter



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: good luck Reply with quote

Good luck to you-I posted my end of TEFL Poland thread a couple of years ago.....you can't earn a living wage there and have a future. It's not for everyone but an oil rotation lets you have a foot in Europe and one in the money. UGT Libya recruit quite regularly....I work directly for an oil company and get 3 weeks off every 6. Teetolism to oblivion in one plane journey!!
FFS!! I paid 140Zl for a whisky in Poznan that costs 12 in my UK local!! (Didn't check the price 1st). Poles are dour. I paid 1000Zl for my ski jacket which zip screwed within 2 weeks.....enough. You're better out of Poland. Good luck.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JPM wrote:

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I'm also off this year, taking a year off, somewhere warm where there's no snow on the ground!


exactly what I did man. i simply had enough of the cold and all the ass aches that comes with it. I'll be in NJ till Saturday and then I'm off to a warm state. where I'm headed, there is no winter. can't wait.

sharter wrote:

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You're better out of Poland.


Absolutely. As a matter of fact, it's the same thing I say to everyone that asks me if they should go or stay....and I'm not just talking about expats. Of all places to live in this world......why Poland? That's the question you need to ask yourself.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
JPM wrote:

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I'm also off this year, taking a year off, somewhere warm where there's no snow on the ground!


exactly what I did man. i simply had enough of the cold and all the ass aches that comes with it. I'll be in NJ till Saturday and then I'm off to a warm state. where I'm headed, there is no winter. can't wait.

sharter wrote:

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You're better out of Poland.


Absolutely. As a matter of fact, it's the same thing I say to everyone that asks me if they should go or stay....and I'm not just talking about expats. Of all places to live in this world......why Poland? That's the question you need to ask yourself.



Being from Canada,the Polish winters were the least of my worries.They never bothered me at all.

I noticed that it was mainly my American colleagues who complained about the terrible winters.

The brits, aussies, canucks and other nationalities I came into contact with, didn't mind the Polish winters, and many enjoyed them actually.They went skiing,boarding ice skating and tried to keep busy. I remember the smiles on the faces of my Irish friends when the snow fell.

I just got tired with the rising costs of living,wage decreases,incessant bureaucracy especially for foreigners,depressive people and the difficulty with respect to learning the damn language.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack walker wrote:

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I just got tired with the rising costs of living,wage decreases,incessant bureaucracy especially for foreigners,depressive people and the difficulty with respect to learning the damn language.


i'm right with you man.

that place totally depresses me in general. the lifestyle, the general attitude of the people there, the weather.....it's just saddening. and yes, the language is a total pain. i hit the books hard while i was there and am quite communicative now but it pains me to think about how much precious time i spent studying while i was out there just to get to a decent speaking level. if i had gone to say spain or france i could have just winged the language and would have been speaking better spanish or french than I speak polish today, even with all the studying I did. totally frustrating.
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