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Rt



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: What are my chances? Reply with quote

Hi! I'm an Indian with a degree in Mass Media and four years' experience in journalism. I'm planning to do CELTA here in Mumbai & then scout for a job abroad.
I'd like to know what you guys think my chances are, being a non-native speaker with no prior experience in teaching. I know this question has been asked before, but there's something else I'd like to ask too--haven't any of you ever come across Indian teachers at any foreign schools? I've spoken to the CELTA trainers here and they say they do have some students who've landed good jobs abroad--China, Sharjah etc. I'd really like to get in touch with Indian teachers abroad to get a better idea of what things are like out there.
Thank you!
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Kiwi303



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Location: Chong Qing Jiao Tong Da Xue, Xue Fu Da Dao, Nan An Qu, Chong Qing Shi, P. R China

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you check in the China forum, there are mentions of indian colleagues in some chinese schools.
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are lots of Indian teachers in the Gulf. The problem for you wouldn't be your nationality, but your entry-level qualifications. Once you get a TEFL certificate, you can apply for jobs at some of the regional colleges (though they will likely look for applicants who have some experience), but the good jobs require MAs and experience--and there is A LOT of difference between good and not-so-good jobs here, and not just in terms of salary. (working conditions...)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: What are my chances? Reply with quote

Rt wrote:
Hi! I'm an Indian with a degree in Mass Media and four years' experience in journalism. I'm planning to do CELTA here in Mumbai & then scout for a job abroad.
I'd like to know what you guys think my chances are, being a non-native speaker with no prior experience in teaching. I know this question has been asked before, but there's something else I'd like to ask too--haven't any of you ever come across Indian teachers at any foreign schools? I've spoken to the CELTA trainers here and they say they do have some students who've landed good jobs abroad--China, Sharjah etc. I'd really like to get in touch with Indian teachers abroad to get a better idea of what things are like out there.
Thank you!


Since your degree is unrelated your chances will depend largely on your interview skills and your accent.

There are a few places you can work with a CELTA, unrelated degree AND an Indian passport.

AS mentioned, China is one place you can find work but the pay won't be very good (3000 RMB on average), the locations will be "less desirable" and you will have to cover the cost of your own visa and travel costs.

In most other places you won't be able to find legal work (with visa and/or work/residence permits) because your degree is NOT related (even with the CELTA).

You might also consider Indonesia but the competition will be high for the few jobs that may be available to you.

In most other cases (and countries in Asia) you might stand a better chance of getting work as a teacher (ESL or subject matter) if you took a year to obtain a Post Graduate Certificate in Education (PCGE) rather than your CELTA (In India the cost will be about the same).

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Rt



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Kiwi303: Thanks, I'll check the China forum for leads

@denise & tttompatz: Thank you for the information. Do you think doing an MA in TESOL instead of CELTA is a better idea?
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rt wrote:
@Kiwi303: Thanks, I'll check the China forum for leads

@denise & tttompatz: Thank you for the information. Do you think doing an MA in TESOL instead of CELTA is a better idea?


As an academic credential it would certainly help.

As to finding a job, it would largely depend on the market you are headed for and who you want to teach. IF you are considering the middle east then it is almost a requirement for employment. If you are looking at Asia (China) then less so. A practical teaching credential will be of more benefit to you (gaining and keeping a job).

Bottom line: even with the credentials it will still boil down to your interview and accent.

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denise



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An MA is a much better idea if you're looking to make a career of this as opposed to just doing it for a couple of years. There's still no harm in getting a CELTA first, though. And then the remaining problem would be your lack of teaching experience. At least here in the Gulf, schools want a couple of years of experience in addition to qualifications. Sorry to be so negative! Sad

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Rt



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the information! I'll find someone with a British/American/neutral accent to comment on mine. CELTA fees are pretty steep here so I'll have to consider all these things before signing up--even though I'm keen on teaching abroad only for some years. Maybe I should try getting some work here too!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rt wrote:
Thank you for the information! I'll find someone with a British/American/neutral accent to comment on mine. CELTA fees are pretty steep here so I'll have to consider all these things before signing up--even though I'm keen on teaching abroad only for some years. Maybe I should try getting some work here too!


You could get both a job as a teacher and a work visa to teach English in Mexico.
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