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kotobuki
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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: MATESOL (or Linguistics, or?) |
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First post, so please redirect me if necessary.
I'm a teacher with about 20 years of experience at all levels, including teacher-training. Still, it's a challenge to find a position these days without an MA. What's the fastest, least expensive, (and least frustrating) way to go for people like me? Wouldn't it be great if life experience counted for some credit (like in The King's Speech)? Thank you for your ideas. |
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Higo
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kotobuki
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, thank you! I'll go there. |
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wylieneill
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kotobuki
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Good info. Thanks for that! |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: Re: MATESOL (or Linguistics, or?) |
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| kotobuki wrote: |
First post, so please redirect me if necessary.
I'm a teacher with about 20 years of experience at all levels, including teacher-training. Still, it's a challenge to find a position these days without an MA. What's the fastest, least expensive, (and least frustrating) way to go for people like me? Wouldn't it be great if life experience counted for some credit (like in The King's Speech)? Thank you for your ideas. |
Before you go out to spend the big bucks for a masters degree I would ask where you are looking to go and who are you aiming to teach.
IF you want to stay with adults or teach at the university level then an MA is not a bad investment but if you are looking at staying in schools (there are lots of places that offer pretty decent packages for school teachers) then it is largely a waste of money (the opportunity costs will outweigh your return on investment).
If you are or would consider Asia then you can do well with a degree and 20 years of experience (even better if the teaching was at schools rather than language academies) and even better yet if you are licensed as a teacher.
Packages in the US$40k range + a full benefit package are not that hard to find.
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Universities in Australia are pretty good. A couple of them offer credits for life experience and if they don't, you can always ask. |
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kotobuki
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow. Both of these posts are really interesting. Yes, I was teaching at university level in the US, and for a company in Japan long ago--always adults. Now the universities won't hire me in the US without one. I didn't find those 40k+ jobs out there. (Well, yes in the Middle East, but don't want to go there right now.) I'd be most happy to work at a university in Japan, and I've considered Taiwan. Those higher salaries would certainly make it possible to pay for a master's. Where do you suggest (looking for work)? An online course from Australia or New Zealand is probably what I'll do. |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| kotobuki wrote: |
| Wow. Both of these posts are really interesting. Yes, I was teaching at university level in the US, and for a company in Japan long ago--always adults. Now the universities won't hire me in the US without one. I didn't find those 40k+ jobs out there. (Well, yes in the Middle East, but don't want to go there right now.) I'd be most happy to work at a university in Japan, and I've considered Taiwan. Those higher salaries would certainly make it possible to pay for a master's. Where do you suggest (looking for work)? An online course from Australia or New Zealand is probably what I'll do. |
IF you have the qualifications (teachers license) then Taiwan government schools have a pretty good package (up to $40k + hosuing, airfare, medical, etc). There is always the NET program in Hong Kong (similar package). Green as grass newbies in Korea (PS systems) start at $24 + housing, pension, medical and airfare (look at the Korean forums for more specifics). Qualified and experienced people in Thailand (private, bilingual or EP schools) can make between $25-40k (plus benefits).
In ALL cases, look at the whole package and not just the base salary when comparing off-shore options. On a salary of $24k (+ benefits) you can save about 1/2 if you live in Korea. You will save about 15k if you are in Thailand or $20k at a government school in Taiwan. Depending on where you go in China, you can also save a pretty good bundle working in private schools (NOT language academies).
IF you plan to stay at the tertiary level then a MATESOL or MA applied linguistics will both suit your purposes (as far as employment is concerned). It becomes more a matter of where YOUR interests lie (for research and/or continued professional development in your field.
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kotobuki
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| Again, great info. I loved HK when I was there years ago. I'll look into that. I would like to get the MA in case I decide I want to stay in the US and teach some uni programs. Cheers. |
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