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The future for native speakers in East and Southeast Asia

 
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wailing_imam



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:40 am    Post subject: The future for native speakers in East and Southeast Asia Reply with quote

Before we begin, when I say native speakers, I mean teachers from historical native speaking countries such as the UK, US, NZ, AUS and CAN rather than the growing number of native speakers from post-colonial societies such as Singapore, India, Jamaica etc.

In the world of ESOL teaching these historical native speakers are still the most sought after for teaching positions. The situation is slightly changing, but those teachers from ESL or non-English speaking countries often still find it hard to secure decent positions.

With the global economic shift away from the west to the east, and a growing sense of regional pride, and the number of competent English speaking teachers from ESL or non-English speaking countries doing their job as effectively as their historical native speaking teacher colleagues, do you think that there will still be the same demand for historical native speaker teachers by 2060?
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fladude



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Native teachers will ALWAYS be more in demand. Just look at the teaching positions in US colleges. For sure, some people teach foreign languages who are from the US, but a great number are still ex patriots from a source country. Many French teachers are actually French, for example. While of course some other people secure these jobs, natives will still have an edge when it comes to applying for jobs, if for no other reason than authenticity.

China's racism will backfire on it in the end and countries which have more open immigration policies will eventually win out. The best and the brightest... aren't ever always going to be from one race or one country.
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deepteeth



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fladude wrote:
The best and the brightest... aren't ever always going to be from one race or one country.


And as serious English learning in SEA approaches the 100 year mark, I think more and more of these best and brightest can be found locally. However, I notice (at least in Russia) non-native teachers can have serious confidence issues that can hinder their performance.

Also: who's making babies these days? Certainly not Americans or Brits. This will eventually come into play, too.

Again also: all those studies about your height and physical appearance getting you better jobs... will they still apply? I for one count my 1.83m and blond hair as huge interview helpers.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Business owners will always look for ways to lower expenses. College-educated Westerners can be expensive. Plus they are always complaining about health insurance and labor laws.

The politically correct crowd will champion the hiring of teachers from ESL or "non-traditional" countries as smashing oppressive racist stereotypes.

And maybe some of them will be great teachers.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, not to be tangential here, I'm not so sure teachers in general will be in high demand by 2060. I'm quite sure that technology will be handling most language teaching within the next two or three decades. Traditional classrooms will become more and more rare, as online ("skype" type) lessons, interactive computer programs, and so forth take over.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or just get robots to teach English like Korea's doing.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101228/wl_asia_afp/skoreaphilippinesroboteducationtechnologyoffbeat

This line in particular warms my heart:
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they won't complain about health insurance, sick leave and severance package, or leave in three months for a better-paying job in Japan
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