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Warning to UK regarding i-to-i TEFL courses
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pocoyoswan



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Warning to UK regarding i-to-i TEFL courses Reply with quote

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My first post on Dave's ESL cafe and I hope that it helps those in the UK save money and not be duped.

i-to-i http://www.i-to-i.com/tefl/ who offer online TEFL courses is somehow linked to Interac (apologies for swearing) although I have no idea how closely. I recently found the i-to-i' "chalkboard" which had such amusing quotes from a PDixon (who appears to be nothing more than an i-to-i or Interac employee juding by his praise of the company).

Read some of his quotes and laugh Very Happy

"The top dispatch company at the moment is Interac - it has one of the best rep in japan and is growing stronger each year" ????

"Some people opt for the JET program over interac because of money - in the long run Interac is the best option." WTF????

"most ALTs prefer Interac over the JET program" LIES LIES LIES!!!!









Here is the proof that Interac and i-to-i are linked from the great PDixon himself.

"Interac is linked with i-to-i because i-to-i acts as an agency and so if you do the 120hrs course they can offer help in getting a job with interac, although nothing is guaranteed"

"interac (the company i-to-i have job placements with) is the leading private company that supplie ALTs for schools" Its SUPPLIES Mr Interac/i-to-i

All quotes taken from these threads

http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-chalkboard/groups/8-Japan/discussion/941-teaching-job-in-japan-jet-programme-or-other?page=1#posts-6171

http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-chalkboard/groups/8-Japan/discussion/311-best-way-to-start-teaching-in-japan?page=1#posts-6381

I could go on quoting this Interac/i-to-i propaganda forever as PDixon spouts it in every post but I'll stop and give you a link to this muppet's youtube video's in which he tries to convince you (in the second video) that the i-to-i TEFL which in his words is "very well known out here in Japan " (6.19) is worth more than CELTA which he argues makes you overqualifed for the majority of jobs in Japan (6.05)!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td8MQ5Al58Y&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz59g-HBSGY&feature=related

If you want to read this muppet's pro-Interac crap go to:

http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-chalkboard/groups/8-Japan

Hell in one post this guy even has screenshots of the Interac application forms to tell you how to fill them in.

The point of this post being you could save yourself �500 as all it will do will get you an interview with Interac and in his own words "nothing is guaranteed". So you are paying �500 for an interview with Interac.

If you are that desperate for a job in Japan, then forget this joke course and apply to Interac directly........ and save alot of money!

Be warned!!
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i-to-i TEFL "courses" are not recognised by the British Council, who accredit schools in the UK. This is because there is no assessed teaching practice in the course. Most importantly, it is because the 120 hour course offered by i-to-i is crap.

Basically, i-to-i get comission from Interac every time they place a teacher with them. It's how the industry works.

i-to-i is crap. Then again, TEFL in Japan is largely just as crap: unqualified teachers teaching learners without the appropriate learning skills about something neither understands.

It's OK, though, because you get to go to Shinjuku, right?
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OneJoelFifty



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinjuku?! Awesome. Where do I sign up?
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gwynnie86



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Most JETs get paid less but some are given low cost accommodation" - false!!! All their accommodation is subsidised AND they are paid a lot more than Interac....

As for the 29.5 hours thing... some of us only have 3 classes a day and yet we HAVE to stay at school from 8am to 4.10pm every day, whether or not we have anything to do (and yet the schools might complain if you appear to be doing nothing productive... so you must learn the art of "looking busy")....
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gwynnie86 wrote:
"Most JETs get paid less but some are given low cost accommodation" - false!!! All their accommodation is subsidised AND they are paid a lot more than Interac....


False. Smile Some have subsidised housing. Some don't. Some pay market rates. Some pay nothing. It's up to the individual contracting organization. For example, I know of one person that paid 5 yen (yes, 5 yen) for a 2 bedroom house while on JET. I paid the standard teacher rate in prefectural teacher's housing. A couple of friends paid commercial rates in private places.

It varies.


Although i-to-i is simply lying when they say JETs are paid less. The standard gross salary of a JET is ~5.6 million yen per year, or ~3.6 million pre-benefits net. I don't know of any dispatch agency that comes close to that, and certainly not Interac.


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As for the 29.5 hours thing... some of us only have 3 classes a day and yet we HAVE to stay at school from 8am to 4.10pm every day, whether or not we have anything to do (and yet the schools might complain if you appear to be doing nothing productive... so you must learn the art of "looking busy")....


I have found that to be very good training for my current corporate career.... Wink Smile
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gwynnie86



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh OK, well the JETs I know are on subsidised housing...
However, I also know Interac employees who only pay 2000 yen a month for huge apartments, as they're in teacher housing!
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OneJoelFifty wrote:
Shinjuku?! Awesome. Where do I sign up?
LOL

The graduate job fairs are coming around soon!
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rangotang



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Monkey wrote:
i-to-i TEFL "courses" are not recognised by the British Council, who accredit schools in the UK. This is because there is no assessed teaching practice in the course. Most importantly, it is because the 120 hour course offered by i-to-i is crap.

Basically, i-to-i get comission from Interac every time they place a teacher with them. It's how the industry works.

i-to-i is crap. Then again, TEFL in Japan is largely just as crap: unqualified teachers teaching learners without the appropriate learning skills about something neither understands.

It's OK, though, because you get to go to Shinjuku, right?


Gah. I am doing an I-to-I course from australia. does this mean my english teaching life is over before it begins. Im not worrying about getting a job through interac though. Im going to find a job myself. Im heading to Japan at the end of March.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't mean your career in Japan will be significantly affected at all - your qualification will give you a slight edge over other entry-level job applicants. I would, however, advise you that it will be difficult-to-impossible to get an ELT job in Europe and Australia (and possibly America too - I don't really know much about the industry there) on the strength of an unmoderated certificate.

You've also missed the boat on most jobs by coming over right at the end of the hiring season - most jobs start at the beginning of April, and recruitment will largely be done and dusted for the majority of employers. That, though, is another topic.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rangotang wrote:

Gah. I am doing an I-to-I course from australia. does this mean my english teaching life is over before it begins. Im not worrying about getting a job through interac though. Im going to find a job myself. Im heading to Japan at the end of March.


Well, you've wasted your money for anywhere that requires a recognised and legitimate qualification. But it might count for something in all the places (& there's lots) that don't.
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rangotang



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Monkey wrote:

You've also missed the boat on most jobs by coming over right at the end of the hiring season - most jobs start at the beginning of April, and recruitment will largely be done and dusted for the majority of employers. That, though, is another topic.


Thanks for your input there. I have got my fingers in other pies currently with respect to jobs. see how it goes Wink
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Captain_Fil



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'll be avoiding i-to-i.

Oh, my!

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bobbysix



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it looks like he has finally realised what kind of company Interac is......

http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-chalkboard/pdixon/posts/3881-sick-in-japan
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pocoyoswan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can never work out whether this guy is actually a genuine ALT or a made up person from Interac had office. His defence of Interac's handling of the guy whose wife lost her baby is frankly embarressing. If he only came to Japan last year, how does he have such in depth knowledge of this?

http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-chalkboard/groups/8-Japan/discussion/289-interac?page=1#posts-4231

I also read in this muppet's post's that he is trying to get a transfer to Osaka with Interac.

http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-chalkboard/pdixon/posts/3783-the-dilema-of-a-changeling

Didn't I read somewhere that Interac got kicked out of Osaka for illegal contracts?

Anways, regarding the link that bobbysix put up, what's the betting he posts a negative post like this and then a few days later posts something saying how glorious Interac are and how they have helped him through this difficult process?

Anybody reckon PDixon is Kevin Salthouse from Interac?
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Captain_Fil



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would avoid i-to-i.

I've heard that Cambridge University is offering a new online course.

Maybe it's worth a try.

Neutral
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