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Publishing EFL Curriculum

 
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mejms



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Publishing EFL Curriculum Reply with quote

Does anyone here have any experience doing this?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In what way? As a teacher looking for opportunities (try LinkedIn)...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some experience in materials development with publishers. But don't really know what you want to know, can you be more specific?--pm me if you perfer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
I have some experience in materials development with publishers. But don't really know what you want to know, can you be more specific?--pm me if you perfer.


I'm looking to get more professionally involved in curriculum writing. Generating curriculum is my favorite part of teaching, so it seems like a logical step. I was wondering who has published esl material and if people had any feedback, advice, networking tips, A curriculum writer job would be a possibility in the future if I'm in the states (after getting a masters), but to begin here I think that I'd like to try to get some material of my own to a publisher. Actually, a book.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the large publishing houses most of the content producers are in England--even for the "American" course books! I'm not sure if that is the case for books published by Pearson, Thompson, Longman, or whatever combination they have merged into now. But OUP, CUP and Richmond all run their show from England. That's not to say you can't get your foot in the door here in Mexico. Network at conferences, MEXTESOL and British Council events especially though try to make sure you are meeting the right people--not just the sales reps. The academic coordinators and any editors or authors that might be present at the conferences are who you want to meet.

The lowest rung on the materials development ladder is commenting on manuscripts. Editors send you books in progress and you make your comments on those as a teacher, what you like, what you hate, what you don't think would work, what's out of sequence, too hard or too easy, etc.
From there you can get asked to write other parts of courses, like workbooks or teacher's books (which are often written by different people than the main text.)

If your book is really good, you could just try to pitch it to a publisher. You could also self publish it, then later talk with the bigger publishers when you have a second book, and you'd have your first book to show them.

Good luck. I think it is also important in this field to network and maintain positive relationships with the people you work with. I got my first work with a publisher when at a conference, I ran into a guy I had worked with at my second job. Five years had gone by and he worked with a publisher in proofreading. He's ask me if I'd be interested in commenting on a manuscript.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
For the large publishing houses most of the content producers are in England--even for the "American" course books! I'm not sure if that is the case for books published by Pearson, Thompson, Longman, or whatever combination they have merged into now. But OUP, CUP and Richmond all run their show from England. That's not to say you can't get your foot in the door here in Mexico. Network at conferences, MEXTESOL and British Council events especially though try to make sure you are meeting the right people--not just the sales reps. The academic coordinators and any editors or authors that might be present at the conferences are who you want to meet.

The lowest rung on the materials development ladder is commenting on manuscripts. Editors send you books in progress and you make your comments on those as a teacher, what you like, what you hate, what you don't think would work, what's out of sequence, too hard or too easy, etc.
From there you can get asked to write other parts of courses, like workbooks or teacher's books (which are often written by different people than the main text.)

If your book is really good, you could just try to pitch it to a publisher. You could also self publish it, then later talk with the bigger publishers when you have a second book, and you'd have your first book to show them.

Good luck. I think it is also important in this field to network and maintain positive relationships with the people you work with. I got my first work with a publisher when at a conference, I ran into a guy I had worked with at my second job. Five years had gone by and he worked with a publisher in proofreading. He's ask me if I'd be interested in commenting on a manuscript.


Really useful, concrete feedback and much appreciated. I have a good idea of the route I'll go. Wish more people had something to say. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:


Really useful, concrete feedback and much appreciated. I have a good idea of the route I'll go. Wish more people had something to say. Thanks.


Well the majority of people who use this forum do not think that teaching English as a Foreign Language is an academic field nor a viable profession. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The route of contributing to a complete work could be more viable. I see trying to produce the whole work yourself fraught with difficulties, such as following up copyright issues on articles, illustrations and photos, which are essential in a modern coursebook. But good luck with your endeavour.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil_K wrote:
The route of contributing to a complete work could be more viable. I see trying to produce the whole work yourself fraught with difficulties, such as following up copyright issues on articles, illustrations and photos, which are essential in a modern coursebook. But good luck with your endeavour.


Who said anything about a coursebook? But I appreciate your thoughts. All true.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:
Phil_K wrote:
The route of contributing to a complete work could be more viable. I see trying to produce the whole work yourself fraught with difficulties, such as following up copyright issues on articles, illustrations and photos, which are essential in a modern coursebook. But good luck with your endeavour.


Who said anything about a coursebook? But I appreciate your thoughts. All true.


Thinking of electronic or paper publishing? Marketing ideas? On top of what Phil writes, I think marketing is the hardest part, though I know you didn't ask about this in your post.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:
Phil_K wrote:
The route of contributing to a complete work could be more viable. I see trying to produce the whole work yourself fraught with difficulties, such as following up copyright issues on articles, illustrations and photos, which are essential in a modern coursebook. But good luck with your endeavour.


Who said anything about a coursebook? But I appreciate your thoughts. All true.


This is the problem, I think you have to be much more specific about what you want to do. I not sure where the business is "publishing curricula" (not "ums")
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