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Work Permit Visa Fiascos Return - Jan. 2011

 
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racetrack



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:21 pm    Post subject: Work Permit Visa Fiascos Return - Jan. 2011 Reply with quote

Well, here we go again. Get ready for visa run flights, not bus rides for a 12 week gift to work and pay taxes, to have to leave again. Hundreds of dollar out of your pocket to work pay taxes legally and pay dual prices. Good bye.

Also, the 6 month from Vientiene, Laos and Bangkok is now prohibited. My long-time visa agent just notified us in writing.

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January, 19 2011

No work permit? You may be expelled

HA NOI � Foreign workers without work permits will be forced to leave the country, says Deputy Minister of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs Nguyen Thanh Hoa.

The regulation comes under a draft decree which has been edited by the Ministry of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs before it is submitted to the Government.

The draft decree also regulates that foreigners who work as high-ranking experts would not need a work permit.

Government Decree 34/CP, which regulates foreign worker recruitment and management, came into effect in April 2008, but enterprises that employed foreigners without permits only received administrative punishment under the regulation.

Foreign workers who did not obey the decree were to be expelled, but in fact, that never happened because the decree was not strictly enforced, said Hoa.

Enterprises found guilty of violating the regulation were fined up to VND5-10 million (US$250-500), depending on their levels of violation.

Procedures to issue work permits would not be changed, but would be more strictly regulated, he added.

The draft decree would not have unnecessary procedures like the old one, under which the Minister of Public Security had to authorise any expulsions. Under the updated version, city police directors would have the power, said Hoa.

"The draft decree creates good conditions for foreign workers with high levels of ability to work in Viet Nam, and manages other foreigners better," he said.

Nguyen Trung Kien, a personnel manager at Hue Phong Leather Shoes Co Ltd in HCM City, said that his company employed 60,000 workers, 3 per cent of whom were foreigners from Asian countries.

"All foreigners that work for my company have work permits because we want to ensure their rights when working in Viet Nam," he said.

However, some foreigners were unsatisfied with the draft decree.

Robert Potts from England, who works for a newspaper in Ha Noi, said that to obtain a work permit, he would have to go through a number of procedures including an official health check, and would also have to provide authorised police records, proof of residence and academic certificates, all with translations.

"It's very difficult to get hold of these documents. If the Government wants to enforce the decree, it should simplify the procedures," he said.


John Ingalls, from England, agreed with Potts.

"I would like to have a work permit but landlords and employers are reluctant to declare foreigners as it means they have to pay more tax," he said.

According to ministry statistics, there are currently 57,000 foreign workers in the country, 70 per cent of whom have work permits, and 30 per cent work under a visa. � VNS


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http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/Social-Isssues/207743/No-work-permit-You-may-be-expelled.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again. Is it true or not? There are many businessmen who can not get work permits and even more teachers. Time will tell.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy123 wrote:
Here we go again. Is it true or not? There are many businessmen who can not get work permits and even more teachers. Time will tell.


Yep - and the joke is that this is not even about us! I have read that relations between Beijing and Hanoi (which have historically been, shall we say, a bit tense Smile ) have deteriorated even further of late and the new regulations are designed to target immigrant Chinese. TEFLers and other Westerners are just getting caught in the cross-fire Mad
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