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MarcyG69



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Deciding Where to go: Advice on Countries! Reply with quote

Hello I am 24 yrs old native English speaker from the United States. I have my Masters Degree in Education and have been teaching for about a year. I am looking to see the world and gain some experience and figured teaching abroad would be an excellent idea. I am however debating where I should go. I am looking for adventure, to meet new people, experience new culture, and to have fun. I want to go to a Country that is safe and exciting. I was considering Costa Rica ( I love to surf, hike, ect) or somewhere in Europe. Any tips on Countries people have taught in would be great.
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mimi_intheworld



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Marcy -

Just a note, Europe is pretty much out of bounds for you. You won't get a visa in most Western European countries...or indeed in many Eastern European countries. Having said that, I did spend a year in the UK teaching English in a comprehensive school (public school to us in the US). So it's possible, but highly (and I emphasise highly) unlikely. Particularly with the economic downturn.

As to Costa Rica - there are others who can tell you about opportunities in the Americas. I am unfamiliar with working anywhere south of the border!

Another question you will need to consider - are finances an issue for you at all? If you are hoping to earn enough to save/start a little nest egg/live on/subsist on... Money and your own financial plans will also help determine where you might go.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have specific questions about a country, try posting (or better yet, searching first) on that specific forum.

General Q&A's (Costa Rica vs. Panama) can be posted on the Latin America forum, for example.
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MarcyG69



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it still possible to live in Europe if I take TEFL course in Europe?? I have been looking into getting certified in Europe would that increase my chances in finding a job in Europe?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the sound of mimis post, no, not much help to you in taking a course in-country. EU residents get most of the jobs, we dont need visas and have a legal right to work in the EU.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Deciding Where to go: Advice on Countries! Reply with quote

MarcyG69 wrote:
Any tips on Countries people have taught in would be great.
You are asking far too much here. People have taught in scores of countries.

By the way, why did you capitalize "country/countries"...twice?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it still possible to live in Europe if I take TEFL course in Europe?? I have been looking into getting certified in Europe would that increase my chances in finding a job in Europe?


No - it's about your passport, not your qualifications.

However, non-EU member citizens can still get legal work permits in the 'new' EU member countries, like the Czech Rep (a very tight job market, though), Poland, Slovakia, and etc. If you're interested, I suggest you read up on the country-specific forums below. Getting certified in-country can increase your chances of finding a job in a country where you can get a legal work permit. That won't be Western Europe, but Central/Eastern Europe are possible - though much more difficult overall than other regions.
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LH123



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Europe for an American will be tough. Have you thought about Argentina, Chile or Uruguay? Safe and exciting...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarcyG69 wrote:
Is it still possible to live in Europe if I take TEFL course in Europe?? I have been looking into getting certified in Europe would that increase my chances in finding a job in Europe?

Yes, you can stay up to 90 days. If you want to STUDY full time at a university, then yes, you could get a student visa.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To explain a bit further Naturegirl's hints:

Google Schengen zone - non-EU citizens can be inside the zone (includes most of western and central 'Europe') for 90 days out of 180. That's on a tourist visa - you are not allowed to work legally during this period. To work, you need an employer to file for legal paperwork for you. This is only possible in the 'new' EU member countries, as I've pointed out in an earlier post.

The study visa is in the event that you can enter a field of study at a European university (most often studying IN the local language) and work a few hours to help support yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
To explain a bit further Naturegirl's hints:

Google Schengen zone - non-EU citizens can be inside the zone (includes most of western and central 'Europe') for 90 days out of 180. That's on a tourist visa - you are not allowed to work legally during this period. To work, you need an employer to file for legal paperwork for you. This is only possible in the 'new' EU member countries, as I've pointed out in an earlier post.

The study visa is in the event that you can enter a field of study at a European university (most often studying IN the local language) and work a few hours to help support yourself.

Ah, yes. Sorry, I assumed that when she said "live in Europe if I take TEFL course in Europe" the OP realised that they won't be able to work since these courses are intensive and that they would ONLY be there for the duration of the course, which is usually 4 or 5 weeks.

As for working, I don't even want to get into that.

I just mentioned the possibility of studying. And some, not all, EU countries will let you work PT if you're on a student visa. If you study, there are plenty of unis out there that offer degrees completely in English: Scandanavia, Holland, and France are just a few. No need to learn the local language, but obviously it would help.

if you're interested in France or SPain and don't mind making only about 700 euros, then look into the Min of Ed's language assistant programmes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm being pedantic, I realise, and apologise for that.

However, the OP may not be aware of what this really means exactly - and the information can make a difference in someone's considerations.

Ah, yes. Sorry, I assumed that when she said "live in Europe if I take TEFL course in Europe" the OP realised that they won't be able to work since these courses are intensive and that they would ONLY be there for the duration of the course, which is usually 4 or 5 weeks.

A non-EU member citizen can be in the Schengen zone for 90 days out of 180. That means he/she can take a 4 week course and still stay in the zone for two additional months as a tourist.

I wouldn't define 'living' in a country as 90 days or less. If I had to count every country I've 'lived' in for a month to three months - well - I'd have 'lived in' a WHOLE lot of places!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I'm being pedantic, I realise, and apologise for that.

However, the OP may not be aware of what this really means exactly - and the information can make a difference in someone's considerations.

I wouldn't define 'living' in a country as 90 days or less. If I had to count every country I've 'lived' in for a month to three months - well - I'd have 'lived in' a WHOLE lot of places!!


Ok, fair enough. But I think some people may define living as just where they sleep. Even if it is only 3 months. or 90 days.

Peopel define things differently. My friend's husband works for company X. they send him around the world. They've lived and worked in 17 countries in the past five years. Some for only a month. Does that mean that they're not really living there? Of course they are. Smile They set up base, get resident visa, bring boxes full of stuff, open bank accounts, etc.

Doesn't matter if it's only a month. Each person has their own definition of what "living" is.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
I'm being pedantic, I realise, and apologise for that.

However, the OP may not be aware of what this really means exactly - and the information can make a difference in someone's considerations.

I wouldn't define 'living' in a country as 90 days or less. If I had to count every country I've 'lived' in for a month to three months - well - I'd have 'lived in' a WHOLE lot of places!!


Ok, fair enough. But I think some people may define living as just where they sleep. Even if it is only 3 months. or 90 days.


What if it's twelve weeks? Or a quarter of a year?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steinmann wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
I'm being pedantic, I realise, and apologise for that.

However, the OP may not be aware of what this really means exactly - and the information can make a difference in someone's considerations.

I wouldn't define 'living' in a country as 90 days or less. If I had to count every country I've 'lived' in for a month to three months - well - I'd have 'lived in' a WHOLE lot of places!!


Ok, fair enough. But I think some people may define living as just where they sleep. Even if it is only 3 months. or 90 days.


What if it's twelve weeks? Or a quarter of a year?
I suppose not Smile since it's only 90 for the EU Laughing
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