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coco chanel
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: Your thoughts please |
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Hello all
I'm thinking of moving to the Middle East, the Gulf in particular, and would just like to hear from some of you about what you think my prospects would be there. So here goes! I'm female and spent almost 15 years working as an EFL teacher abroad. I have been in the UK for 6 years now, during which time I've worked teaching General English, EAP (Foundation, Pre-sessional and In-sessional courses) in a university. I have a BA, CELTA, and a Masters in TESOL.
My initial questions are:
1 - Am I more likely to secure a good job in schools or universities?
2 - Which of the Gulf states is my best bet, in terms of package offered?
3 - Are my qualifications good enough to secure a good package?
I'd be very grateful for any comments/advice/suggestions.
Thanks 
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, if only all questions like this were so easy to answer.
Because you don't have your certification/license to get you into the top of the K-12 schools, you should definitely restrict your search to university level. Your chances are even better if you can go to TESOLArabia in March for a face-to-face interview.
The best pay is to be found in the Emirates, followed by Qatar, Kuwait, and Oman. Oman is the most interesting country, but the pay lags the other three since they have less oil.
Excuse me for talking in dollars, but you can convert to your currency of choice. You should be in the US$3500-5000 per month depending on a combination of institution and country... plus the usual benefit package of free furnished housing, tickets, medical, gratuity...
As long as your position is in a decent sized city, your husband should be able to find a job.
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coco chanel
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hello VS
Thanks for your reply. It looks like you have lived in the Gulf and know a a lot about it, so I have a few more questions for you if that's OK?
Of the universities in the UAE, which are the most highly-regarded? And is there a fixed time for recuitment, e.g. spring for August start? I've heard they take ages to reply, or just don't acknowledge applications. I also meant to ask about the possibilty of working for private companies e.g. oil companies, or for the military, or is that a male-only domain?
In terms of the accommodation are we talking villa or apartment in a high-rise, or does that depend on the employer? What does the majority of universities provide?
The packages sound reasonably good, and if my husband was on a similar or better package I guess that would make for a pretty good lifestyle. However, I have heard that the cost of living is pretty high in the UAE. I suppose that it comes down to individual lifestyle at the end of the day. Jumping the gun a bit, would it better for him to move there with me - if I were offered a job - or start jobhunting from here? There are probably implications salary-wise!
Thanks again!
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:40 am Post subject: |
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coco chanel wrote: |
Of the universities in the UAE, which are the most highly-regarded? |
I'd suggest a few hours of reading on this board. "Highly regarded" will rarely be used about any of them. What you want to look for is the best you can get... as first positions can sometimes be hard to get... and this is a very unusual time in the UAE. HCT used to be a great job... read the current threads. UAEU used to be a great job... again... times are difficult there. ZayedU and AUS are still great, but very very difficult to get jobs there. I suggest that perhaps you will have better luck with that first job at Qatar University or Sultan Qaboos University in Oman.
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And is there a fixed time for recuitment, e.g. spring for August start? |
Right now. Most hiring for August/Sept starts will be complete by the end of March. (by the end of TESOLArabia in Dubai and TESOL in the US)
coco chanel wrote: |
I've heard they take ages to reply, or just don't acknowledge applications. |
All true... or you might hear the day after you apply online. There is no predicting how it will go... it is an exercise in patience usually.
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I also meant to ask about the possibilty of working for private companies e.g. oil companies, or for the military, or is that a male-only domain? |
Never hear of any corporate work and you probably don't want to get involved with oil or military teaching... and yes, it is usually mostly men. The Petroleum Institute used to be a great job, but it seems to have gone downhill and they don't seem to be hiring much anymore or at least we don't hear much about it anymore.
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In terms of the accommodation are we talking villa or apartment in a high-rise, or does that depend on the employer? What does the majority of universities provide? |
Yes it depends on employer and city... but the vast majority of teachers live in apartments/flats in high rises. Usually pretty nice... getting a villa is very rare these days.
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The packages sound reasonably good, and if my husband was on a similar or better package I guess that would make for a pretty good lifestyle. However, I have heard that the cost of living is pretty high in the UAE. I suppose that it comes down to individual lifestyle at the end of the day. Jumping the gun a bit, would it better for him to move there with me - if I were offered a job - or start jobhunting from here? There are probably implications salary-wise! |
The reality is that you are the one who is most likely to get a job offer with the best benefits. He will be competing in his profession against a huge number of highly trained and competent IT and MBAs from India and much of Asia who are willing to work for less than he will probably want. He will likely have a difficult time matching your salary... unless he has a killer international CV. And he will have better luck from within the country I would guess... but since you would have a benefit package, that is fine.
Just remember when you are looking at the salary numbers, that overseas income is normally tax free back home and there are no taxes in the Gulf. Also normally working couples in the Gulf can live very well on the lowest of their two salaries and save the largest one... and I know many who also save part of the lower salary.
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coco chanel
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hello again VS
Many thanks for your detailed reply. I'd better get going if recruitment mainly happens around now! I don't think I'll be able to go to Dubai for TESOL Arabia due to work commitments. Do you think many contracts are signed there?
I've been browsing the websites and see that some ask for scanned certificates to be sent with the application and ask for the names of three referees at this point too! Is this normal practice in the Gulf?
And I'm just curious about how long you were there for altogether.
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: |
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coco chanel wrote: |
Do you think many contracts are signed there? |
Contracts are not signed until after you arrive in country. What you start out with is an offer. It all depends on what you have to offer that they are looking for and how you interview. I have friends who didn't manage to get one offer and others who left TESOL with 5 offers - every institution that interviewed them.
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I've been browsing the websites and see that some ask for scanned certificates to be sent with the application and ask for the names of three referees at this point too! Is this normal practice in the Gulf? |
Yup... so it seems with the new online application systems.
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And I'm just curious about how long you were there for altogether. |
I was in the Middle East from 1985 to 2001... Egypt, Oman, Kuwait and the UAE... good times...
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