Job Discussion Forums

[kapteyn]

I am pretty much just wondering if I could get any feedback on this recruiting agency I am looking at for a job in China. They are pretty new, only 3 years old I think, and I wanted some third party opinions. Any help is welcome.

[Teatime of Soul]

What can a recruiter do that you cannot, except preemptively reduce your wages?

[thessy]

[johntpartee]

[xiao51]

[nchannah]

I was in contact with them back in May before I found my job in Korea. I got very bad vibes from them, I found them overly pushy and very unprofessional. They were really desperate to get my documents, which kind of freaked me out. One of the recruiters wouldn't leave me alone about it, even though I told him that it would be two or three weeks before I had everything together. He called me every night to bug me about my documents. He told me, "let's do this NOW, RIGHT NOW - once we start this process you're in China in no more than three weeks. We don't eff around and we need your documents NOW." I don't know why they wanted my documents so urgently....I cut off contact with them.

Avoid.

[cb400]

I found that during my recent job search recruiters are positing as the schools. For example I applied a some position in Nanjing and got the 'send us your documents now message and what position are you applying for? even though I thought I was applying to a specific job.

Generally you should avoid recruiters at any cost and place your name and resume online. A lot of schools will find you this way as they don't always want to deal with recruiters also.

[drrjon]

Why use a recruiter? Either they charge you up front or take part of your salary. Some recruiters also charge the school large fees. I will not use a recruiter to find new teachers. In the past I found the teachers they introduced were not qualified to do anything.

[7969]

[DosEquisX]

I think it's fine to use a recruiter for public unis and schools. I have been doing that so far. But so many private academies and training schools work outside of recruiters that it's just useless to use them for that.

If you perceive them as just a means to an end and trust them like you would a used car salesman then you should be okay.

So far, Horizon hasn't been too bad. They put me in touch with schools I am interested in before being pushy with documents. They have an easily navigable website and a wealth of available jobs to apply for. They do seem to be a bit pissed at the fact that I am being pretty selective with my choice of school.

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I am currently working with Network ESL, Engtop International Education Consulting, and Start Consulting for public unis.

[TexasHighway]

i think it is unnecessary to use a recruiter to find a job in a public university. After narrowing down my choices to the area and schools I am interested in, I just call the universities myself. If I am going to devote a year or more of my life working for a school, I don't mind investing a little time and effort beforehand in landing the job I want. That method has worked great for me for the past 10 years!

[hdwhatley]

Guangzhou Saintshine Education Service Co. Ltd
Mike Zheng

RAY English Recruiting
Xi'an

I found them both to be unprofessional in my dealings with them.

[cormac]

[mat chen]

There are too many schools not making money in China. Everyone thinks the handsome beutiful foreigner will make them money.
One thing that used to be done in the past was to have the old teacher meet the new teacher and pass the torch. Everything would be smooth. Now it is in the recruiters advantage to get the old teacher out and the new teacher in and they never meet. Recruiters need a turnover to make money.

[cormac]