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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:34 am    Post subject: making videos with your students Reply with quote

I like to use videos for various activities in class, though generally I use things downloaded from Youtube or things I have copies of in various media forms.

Sometimes I am torn between wishing I had access to proper video editing software or simply bringing my own video camera and then editing what I recorded (on the camera itself). I have had the media lab burn videos for me (of presentations), but it is unedited work, mostly for my own eyes.


Recently, I saw this work from another University of Birmingham grad;

Studying English in Japan: how it could be improved

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsZ0KiHhRg

Studying abroad: problems and possible solutions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CYaUhqEdw

I'm wondering..

What do you think of the final products?

Have you done something similar with your classes?

How would you try to use these videos with your students (they of course don't need to be Japanese students)?
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Trifaro



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a guy on this website named "Tetrslovakia" or something like that. He teaches in Mexico. You might consider contacting him about exchanging student videos depicting their daily lives.

Good Luck
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tttompatz



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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are aware that you can do a decent job of home movies (for classroom use or upload to youtube) with windows movie maker (part of windows and included on all windows versions from XP through Win7?

There are also other (pretty powerful) software packages out there that are low cost or free and do a pretty decent job as well.

Just google "free video editing software" or go to your favorite download side and look for some decent shareware package.

Alternatively, use torrents and get something like "cyberlink power director".

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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I would try that, but working through a Japanese OS, I find sometimes the Windows package of what we get is different. That and of course if we did have it, I probably would find it very difficult to use.

As to getting free stuff, I'll consider it, though I'm wary of downloading a lot of stuff; always seem to get "uninvited" visitors.

Did you view the videos? What did you think? Do you edit your own videos? I know Nick Pellet does (he's on this forum also), though it's videos he makes generally,but his students are in them sometimes.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At our school we (many of the teachers - not just me or the English department) do a lot of in-house video creation for both classroom presentations and of our school or class activities.

If you have difficulty finding or using windows movie maker (again, it is part of windows and NOT an add-on or extra software) on your computer you can also use powerpoint 2010 to create a video. Simply make your .ppt with embedded video or stills and save as a wmv file. Bingo - 1 quick little movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDB6I6zEp9c&feature=related

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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'm used to embedding video with Powerpoint, just not necessarily video I have shot.

I think I found it, but yes, it's all in Japanese (Windows movie maker).

Unfortunately our school doesn't have computers where we can edit video, at least for the departments I work in. So if I was to do it, it would have to be at home.

I guess you didn't watch the videos yet.....rather simple, but interesting. Not sure how much is the teacher's slant on things though.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways wrote:
Yes, I'm used to embedding video with Powerpoint, just not necessarily video I have shot.

I think I found it, but yes, it's all in Japanese (Windows movie maker).

Unfortunately our school doesn't have computers where we can edit video, at least for the departments I work in. So if I was to do it, it would have to be at home.

I guess you didn't watch the videos yet.....rather simple, but interesting. Not sure how much is the teacher's slant on things though.


I did watch the videos. Nothing spectacular about them. Not sure there was even any editing (other than start/stop the cam and add the subtitles).

The content was perhaps pointed at someone significant to them but I think the message is essentially wasted on anyone who really understands the learning process and lost/wasted on those who don't.

Anyway, I really didn't plan to comment on content. I was only responding to your thread in so far as a teacher making use of multi-media in the classroom (something I am strongly in favor of) and using students in that multi-media as part of the learning process.

As to the technical aspect, you can edit video on any computer that can run XP (going all the way back to an old [email protected] GHz) so your excuses about not being able to edit video seem pretty lame although I admit that changing video from an older camcorder (analogue) to a digital file may be a different story (perhaps needing a fire-wire input) but if you have access to digital content (like from ANY digital camera now-a-days)...

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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways posted
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I guess you didn't watch the videos yet.....rather simple, but interesting. Not sure how much is the teacher's slant on things though.


tttompatz posted
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I did watch the videos. Nothing spectacular about them. Not sure there was even any editing (other than start/stop the cam and add the subtitles).

The content was perhaps pointed at someone significant to them but I think the message is essentially wasted on anyone who really understands the learning process and lost/wasted on those who don't.


I assume you're talking about the first video only. Yes, I didn't think technically the videos showed a lot, but I thought the issues that were raised were interesting (in both videos). I do question if some of the students really understood the opinions given though (the student levels seem a bit mixed), so I might wonder how much of the content was generated by the students or how much teacher direction they were given.

Perhaps I should have made two different threads, one talking about video/multimedia work, the other on students giving opinions.


gaijinalways posted
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Yes, I'm used to embedding video with Powerpoint, just not necessarily video I have shot.

I think I found it, but yes, it's all in Japanese (Windows movie maker).

Unfortunately our school doesn't have computers where we can edit video, at least for the departments I work in. So if I was to do it, it would have to be at home.



tttompatz posted
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As to the technical aspect, you can edit video on any computer that can run XP (going all the way back to an old [email protected] GHz) so your excuses about not being able to edit video seem pretty lame


I'm glad you find it easy, to edit video that is. The schools where I work, we're restricted from using a lot of software (we can't install anything). Surprisingly, many Windows programs have been removed from certain PCs (including Windows media on some PCs, surprisingly, the icon is there only). I have very little experience shooting video as well, but some of that is a reaction to it being overdone in some cases by travelers I know (act natural, act natural). Cool
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