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naturegirl321

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fluffyhamster
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I just registered to be updated via Cambridge ESOL, so hopefully I'll be added to the mailing list. An online CELTA would be great. |
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desertdust
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I heard it is starting early in 2012. However, one will still have to do the practical teaching for 6 hours and the observed teaching for 6 hours. |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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That's still pretty good though. |
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desertdust
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I am pretty sure if you get accepted and enrol in the course. It will be only available at certain centres where you will have to do the practical teaching and observation parts on campus. So those who are hoping to do it whilst working in a remote or off the track type of place may be disappointed. |
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smithrn1983
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: |
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desertdust wrote: |
So those who are hoping to do it whilst working in a remote or off the track type of place may be disappointed. |
True, but six hours of observed teaching, and six hours of teaching practice can be accomplished pretty quickly. Even if you have to travel to get this done, it's still better than traveling somewhere and finding accommodation for an entire month. I think most of us traveled somewhere to get our certs, so this cuts down on some of the costs involved. |
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desertdust
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Good point, but remember the time of teaching and observation lessons is at the discretion of the centre concerned. So you think it would be a good idea to get rid of the lessons in 2-3 days. The centre might have a different idea as the scheduling of those classes. Maybe once a week, over six weeks, for instance. |
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Denizen

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:58 am Post subject: |
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From what I've read on their site, it appears the first online CELTA will be from the UK, with other locations adopting the format late this year. It will certainly add convenience, though you'll need to be close to a center to complete the classroom sections.
The fees, I understand will be slightly higher than the $2,495 fee for the regular program. Convenience always comes at a cost. |
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travelNteach
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I dont know if the online course is such a great idea. currently CELTA is the benchmark for ESL qualificatoins, short of a BA or MA. i know a lot of schools that will immediately hire someone with a CELTA. i wonder if the qualty (of the newly qualified) will suffer and the program will become watered down. if they start certifying substandard teachers, eventually their brand name will be lowered to regarded the same as another other cert. |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Denizen wrote: |
The fees, I understand will be slightly higher than the $2,495 fee for the regular program. Convenience always comes at a cost. |
Sure, but you don't have to give up a month's worth of work in order to attend. |
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thewileycoyote
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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smithrn1983 wrote: |
desertdust wrote: |
So those who are hoping to do it whilst working in a remote or off the track type of place may be disappointed. |
True, but six hours of observed teaching, and six hours of teaching practice can be accomplished pretty quickly. Even if you have to travel to get this done, it's still better than traveling somewhere and finding accommodation for an entire month. I think most of us traveled somewhere to get our certs, so this cuts down on some of the costs involved. |
This isn't true. One of the best things about the CELTA is also watching all your classmates teach as well. So your observed teaching is actually 30 hours of your classmates, 6 hours of video, plus your 6 hours teaching.
The problem I think that will arise is that you will end up watching videos of experienced teachers for those hours. Watching teachers at around the same level and actually being there experiencing the problems they are having in a real life setting teaches you a lot.
I think it's a big mistake to offer an online CELTA as I think student development will suffer. Without all that time interacting will real ESL students you might as well just buy a book like Learning Teaching and watch some videos. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly, I agree that an online CELTA won't be equivalent to an onsite course. As I've pointed out in other threads, it's also about how well a candidate can work in a team, in daily situations, and what kind of affective atmosphere he/she helps to create with other trainees - not just the practice students.
I'd hesitate to hire someone with an online CELTA. |
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naturegirl321

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:03 am Post subject: |
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I wonder though, when the online CELTA starts if a few years later the majority of newbies would have them. |
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Flicka
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Another thing you'd lose out on with online courses: Well, on my course anyway, the tutors would demonstrate various teaching styles/techniques/methodology by teaching us for 15 minutes as though we were ESL students and that would be the lead-in to looking at various related tasks etc. Plus each of the tutors had a distinctive style so even when were "just learning" as ELT trainees, we were exposed to different styles of teaching and it came up in discussion outside of the classroom, it was always interesting to swap opinions on the latest class. There were was also a lot of groupwork and idea-sharing with the other trainees. Oh the other thing in teaching practices was that you would get your TP group's opinions about your teaching and share your own about their teaching, which teaches you to reflect on yours and others' teaching which is a useful skill to develop.
None of that would happen in an online course, would it? I can't say how it would affect the quality of qualified teachers, am just saying what I found to be a very valuable component of the course alongside all the teaching practices and actual theory. |
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