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Painless ways of learning Spanish

 
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:11 am    Post subject: Painless ways of learning Spanish Reply with quote

I have a fair amount of free time at work and a computer in front of me, but find it difficult to apply myself to learning Spanish. Lazy, I guess. I know there are plenty of Spanish learning websites etc., and have looked at a few, but I tend to find them boring, and my enthusiasm soon fizzles out.

I've recently discovered using the Google translator tool, so that I can simultaneously read and translate Spanish newspaper articles (for example), which is far more interesting than ploughing through grammar excercises and verb tables. But the Google translator is far from perfect and I could do with some other relatively painless methods.

Anyone got any suggestions? Particularly useful would be any interesting audio sources/apps for help with pronunciation etc.

Thanks for any help.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried trying to set up a converstaion exchange?
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Have you tried trying to set up a converstaion exchange?


Hi NG. What's a conversation exchange? I wouldn't be able to have an actual conversation in the office ...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perilla wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
Have you tried trying to set up a converstaion exchange?


Hi NG. What's a conversation exchange? I wouldn't be able to have an actual conversation in the office ...


It's where you spek Spanish for X amount of time, like a half hour, and then speak English.

So the person corrects your Spanish, you correct their English. If you're in the office, maybe you could have them come there. I've got a nice boss that doesn't care as long as my work gets done.
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
If you're in the office, maybe you could have them come there. I've got a nice boss that doesn't care as long as my work gets done.


Thanks NG but no, that's not going to work unfortunately. I need ways of learning on my computer that won't bother anyone around me, so talking is out. Interesting websites, audio sources, cool ideas, etc. please.
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Insubordination



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For vocabulary, I have free flashcard software/vocab trainer. I've only used the German edition, but there's probably a Spanish one. It's called 'Let's Learn a Language'. Mine is version 3.6. I downloaded it 3 or so years ago.

It's great and progressive and really works but can get a little boring because it just presents isolated words and not much conversation.

Have you looked on itunes? There are loads of free, interesting Spanish applications and podcasts and real video/dialogues. The advanced level ones are particularly authentic, especially 'Learning and Teaching Scotland'. I don't know what your level is but you should download a few and check them out (you don't need an ipod/phone to use itunes).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Rosetta Stone?
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melanissa



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This suggestion will either really appeal when you look at it or you'll absolutely hate it! And your Spanish is probably already at a better level than this....but I recently got hooked at "mi vida loca" - it's part of the BBC language learning things, basically a series of video episodes that are interactive too, starts off really basic and is probably too basic for what you're after as it's not really got any grammar in there. But I was, as a beginner, really hooked (sad I know!). The whole series is almost like a soap opera so I found myself just watching one after the other and did them all in a day and a half rather than the 12 weeks it suggests!!

The only other thing I'm using to learn before I head out is a CD collection by Michel Tomas, really good, I'm not normally a person that learns well by just listening, but he's really good. I borrowed them from a friend but have heard they're quite expensive to buy, but they'd be a valuable investment!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Rosetta Stone?

Research indicates that tools like this (and possibly the ones melanissa mentions - I'm not familiar) are useful for raw beginners, but their effectiveness quickly diminishes as the student gains even low levels of proficiency. This is why some big government organisations use it - to kick off their learners before sending them to 'real' programmes and ultimately abroad.

Basically not recommended above about A1, possibly A2.
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IanN



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never really looked at this site as I could already speak Spanish before I saw it but you may want to try http://www.spanishfree.org/
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

START with Rosetta Stone, then move up then Smile
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tjc2120



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally have been going through my public library's resources to check out books on CD and trying to find the one I find the most useful.

Also, you probably already know that after translating a word or paragraph through google here: http://translate.google.com/, you can then "listen" to the pronunciation. (Not sure it would work for long pieces of texts or pages.)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

google translate isn't always very accurate Shocked
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