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[JoeRomano]

Does anyone know what salaries there are like? Say, for a person with an MA and over 10 years of experience in the Gulf.

I am particularly interested in learning this info from people who

1) have worked for them
2) who have friends that have worked for them and told you how much they were paying.
3) who have heard about how much they pay.

Please give a range if you do not know the exact figure.

Note: please do not reply if you do not know or are planning to say : " it depends" or will give a wide range like e.g. between AED 9000- 20,000. Anyone knows that. I mean just a typical salary + what benefits they normally give?

Anything else to say about that institution?

[helenl]

On campus housing which most are satisfied with. Access to excellent sports facilities. A beautiful campus.

The people I know there have been there for 5+ years and show no sign of wanting to move on. I don't know how much they earn, guesstimate based on time in the job between 20 - 25,000

[veiledsentiments]

In the past the benefits were well described on their website... along with pictures of the housing. (which hopefully still provide free satellite TV and internet) It has been awhile since I clicked around on it, so I hope it is still there. Salaries are competitive with the rest of the tertiary level, but if you are American, the benefits are unbeatable in the Gulf. They pay into SS and... is it tiaa-cref?

Good Luck getting in there... as Helen says... no one leaves if they can possibly avoid it.

VS

[helenl]

Sorry, forgot to add - annual tickets and medical. Probably school allowance but not sure.

[Sheikh N Bake]

I doubt they offer anywhere near 20-25,000AED. In 2002 their intensive English program offered a lousy AED10,000, and I had two master's degrees and 16 years' experience including 9 years in the Gulf. I am also merely guessing but my guess would be AED15K/mo. unless they got real.

[helenl]

As I said, mine was a guesstimate. However, in 2002 10,000 iswhat HCT was offering just down the road - for competent, experienced EFL teachers (content teachers would have been offered 10 to 30% more than EFL to start at that time). Inflation and competition since 2002 have resulted in higher starting wages and more substatntial wage hikes - as I pointed out, my friends have been there 5+ years hence the 20 - 25k estimate. A newbie, 10 - 20% less?

[veiledsentiments]

[Sheikh N Bake]

Yup, I interviewed with them in 2002 before taking the Petro Inst. job. AUS was offering a bit over AED 10K. My background had been Foundations for 5 years at DWC, while previous experience included some years of freshman-everything at American univs in Japan and Malaysia. Not to mention 4 years in Saudi.

Oh, I certainly remember that insulting salary. And the shabby way they treated me during and after the interview. It was very obvious that one or two of the women on their panel were hostile to the idea of a new male (in a sharp suit) coming on board. But being hostile was an equal opportunity there, as the male ESL director seemed to dismiss me outright, and never bothered to send even a form rejection letter afterwards. I don't say all this lightly...my experiences with interviews have been as good and bad as the next job seeker. And if you're wondering if I look or behave like a mountain man from Deliverance in person, consider that on the other end of the scale, I placed #1 on desirable hires for my last job, out of 200+ applicants and 70+ interviewed. (That was for the West African oil co. rotation job. I know the rankings because I got hold of the hiring committee's documents after the project manager was fired.)

HCT started me out at 11,000 in 1997. I doubt they were starting people out at 10K in 2002! I dunno--maybe people with just a BA and three years' experience.

[helenl]

I know of 1 EFL teacher who started the same time as I did was offered (and accepted) AED9000 in 2001 - she had a Master's and Far East experience - So not really a direct comparison to your quals

It must have been the suit! Was it pinstriped (and did the outfit include a fedora?)

[veiledsentiments]

Interesting how different SnB's experience is from everyone else I have spoken too who worked or interviewed with them. I wonder if someone from HCT put a negative bug in their ear? (or was it the cigar?)

VS

[celticbutterfly]

HCT English faculty were being hired with salaries around 17-18,000 in September, depending on how they negotiated. This was the latest round of hires in September - not sure if the budget concerns will drop this amount. It should be comparable for the AUS I would say. Again, sorry, no real idea.

[Sheikh N Bake]

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[anaxiforminges]

One quick add on: cable is extra, but internet is free.

[anaxiforminges]