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wojbrian
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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: Contract Question |
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I have submit my paperwork for my temporary residence. Does anyone know what kind of contract I need? I am an American with a work visa.
Side question, is there a way to work for more then one school on my work visa? |
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micchan
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According to some website I read, you'll have to pay extra at the visa registration office to work for other schools. I can't for the life of me remember the website, but it should set you back roughly 100 to 150 zl.
Hope that helped >.< |
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lundjstuart
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Location: Warsaw, Poland
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Open up your own activity then apply for the card. Then you'll be able to work for as many schools as you would like. It would also mean that you'll pay ZUS, SKARBOWY and possibly an accountant. You would also do all of the karta pobytu paperwork by yourself.
Check with SIMON_PORTER00 in regards to more info about this. He has a website that is very useful. |
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wojbrian
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I am not really working enough to open a business and pay taxes. Can I open a business before having a nip or pesel? |
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lundjstuart
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Opening a business is free, the taxes you pay all the time. With a business you can write things off. You have lessons in your flat, write the rent off. You make copies at Copy General, write them off.
The pain in everybody's side is ZUS, first two years the payment is 340 or so PLN but after the second year it goes up to 800 or so PLN. |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| lundjstuart wrote: |
Opening a business is free, the taxes you pay all the time. With a business you can write things off. You have lessons in your flat, write the rent off. You make copies at Copy General, write them off.
The pain in everybody's side is ZUS, first two years the payment is 340 or so PLN but after the second year it goes up to 800 or so PLN. |
Don't forget the cost of an accountant do figure out how much tax you owe every month. About 150zl/month here in Warszawa.
Aside from these expenses, opening a business is basically free, as J writes. The schools you work for will love you for it, as it's cheaper for them and involves less paperwork on their end.
Regarding the work permit, I've been told that you only need a work permit for ONE school and can work for others without a permit. |
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wojbrian
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| So long as I do my paperwork with the one school the other school shouldn't have any problems hiring me officially? |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| wojbrian wrote: |
| So long as I do my paperwork with the one school the other school shouldn't have any problems hiring me officially? |
"Officially" I have no idea. You know how it works over here; ask six people, get six different answers
But I have been on contracts with multiple schools simultaneously while having only one work permit. The schools' admin people said it wasn't a problem.
I think the most important thing about the work permit is that you need it to get the karta pobytu. |
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dynow
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| So long as I do my paperwork with the one school the other school shouldn't have any problems hiring me officially? |
I don't know if this is true or not either, I was never on a work permit, but if someone could only work for ONE school in Poland while on a work permit, I simply don't know why anybody would agree to that.
The thought of being tied down to one school and depending on them to provide you with work month after month, year after year is scary. Language schools in Poland are nothing short of sketchy and I'd hate to be that dependent on one, especially knowing that my being legal in Poland depends on my contract with them. You stop working on a work permit, you pack your bags and go back home.
What if the school goes out of business? What if they simply don't have any lessons for you? What if the school closes for the summer months? What if you don't like your boss? What if you don't like the school?
If you're somebody looking to just spend a year in Poland, do the September to June thing and then just go back home, the work permit route may not be a bad idea if you have cash stowed away before you come to float you if the school doesn't have work for you. Coming on a work permit means the school has to do most of your paperwork saving you time and aggrivation and when the contract ends, there's nothing further you need to do besides pack your stuff and fly back home. |
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Jack Walker
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For me,one of the best things about being at home now, is avoiding all of the documents,stamps,kartas szmartas,bureaucracy and assorted legal mumbo jumbo that living in a place like Poland requires.
It is so refreshing to just be able to live without running around to offices all day and not having to deal with the stress and language barrier.
I remember getting my ARC (Alien Residence Certificate) in Taiwan back in 1998.You went to the office with your 50 bucks,signed work document from your school (1 simple page) and health test results,stood in line for 2 minutes,came back in exactly one week and got your residence card which was good for a full calendar year.If you wanted to extend it,you simply repeated the simple process a year later.Nothing more involved in it than that.
I remember the office was in the main police station building.There were many clerks just waiting for you with big smiles and perfect English(you'd think that would be obvious as they're dealing with foreigners all day, but in Poland it isn't unfortunately). It was a simple and pleasant experience.The Poles could learn something from the Taiwanese system.
You then worked at your main job and no one cared if you worked anywhere else. |
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wojbrian
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I am home in the US and working already.
If I go back I will start a business.
I agree about the being trapped part. The system has no flexibility at all. |
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